Lamination or RIDB

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Pickin and Grinin, Nov 30, 2024.

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What is it?

  1. Lamination

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  2. Retained interior die break.

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Here is one from pocket change. It's a details coin, which makes it hard for someone with aging eyes to fully make out the coin. There are two IDB's that don't match anything on Cuds on Coins. Then we have the forehead and hair, I lean towards a Retained IDB, but it doesn't match any of them either.
    What do you think?
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    Last edited: Nov 30, 2024
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Hopefully these are some better photos. upload_2024-11-30_22-32-5.jpeg
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  4. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    The crack on th head looks like it could be a lamination. I'm not familiar with the term "retained interior die break." It seems confusing.

    "Piece out of the die" always made more sense to me.

    Diseased stalk was one of the terms used for breaks on wheat stalks.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The B in LIBERTY is a die crack that filled in the bottom portion of the B. The line in the hair appears to be a lamination.
     
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    "Ding, Ding!!" You're both correct. Pass Go, collect $200.
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Definition: A retained interior die break occurs when a flake detaches from the die face but, instead of falling off, it sinks into the surrounding metal.

    Attached is a photo of a similar RIDB, this one is also on a 57D Lincoln.
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    The above is
    RIDB-1c-1957D-13

    https://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-retained-interior-die-break-1909-1958/





    An idb is not a die crack, it is a chunk of metal that fell from the die face causing a void or raised blob of metal that looks like a featureless blob.
    Same as a filled MM.

     
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  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Lamination of RIDB?
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  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yeah, looks like a RIDB to me but I'm no expert. Maybe @paddyman98 knows about this? Is this a different coin?o_O
     
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  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Brain tumor
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Same coin Sal.
     
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  12. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I was looking thru the LIB's area. and noticed some of your amazing photos, and examples. I wish I could take photos like that.
     
  14. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    Thank you for the kind words!
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This is the best condition RIDB that I have in my collection.
    upload_2024-12-4_20-15-7.jpeg
     
  16. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    Super Nice! I think that's the only cud known for 1955-S. Would love to get hold of one of those.
     
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I would have to look it up. I love to hit the brick and mortars.
     
  18. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  19. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

  20. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    It has both an IDB and RIDB on the obverse but it has a reverse cud and listed as:
    CU-1c-1955S-01R
     
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  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I think that Dyno was referring to the 57D,

    The 55S has 3 attributions. it is also listed as
    IDB-1c-1955S-01 and RIDB-1c-1955S-02.
     
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