KOINON IV Sampler

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  1. Nicholas Molinari

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  3. tenbobbit

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    Hi @Nicholas Molinari, enjoyed the sample essay a lot.

    It has however left me wondering about a coin i own with a strange symbol that i am unsure about, it does vaguely resemble the one in the essay from Prof. Dandrow.

    The coin -
    Macrinus, Sillyum Pamphylia

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    The coin was listed as having Diadumenian on the Reverse with no mention of the field symbol in front of the bust.
    I am pretty confident that it is Apollo not Diadumenian meaning that there is a slim possibility that the symbol is a Laurel branch.
    Having said that it really doesn't look like a branch to me.
    So what is it ?

    Would you be so kind as to share the coin image with Prof. Dandrow and ask his opinion on the field symbol ?
    Even if he thinks it is a branch that would help me with confirming the Reverse figure to be Apollo not Diadumenian.

    I do hope you don't mind me posting the coin and ofcourse appreciate any help you may be able to give.

    Thanks
     
  4. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    Of course, I just asked on Twitter, so you can see his response to me there: @KoinonJournal is my username. I will post here as well.
     
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  5. Nicholas Molinari

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    My guess is that it is another example of the free floating scimitar.
     
  6. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    Where is it possible to get a copy of vol.IV? I would specially like to read Lloyd Taylor's Alexander Decadrachms.
     
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  7. Nicholas Molinari

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    It is not listed on the publisher site yet but should be soon. I will post here when it is available.
     
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  9. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    Thank you Nicholas & thank Ed for me.

    The quest continues :bookworm:
     
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  11. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    I respectfully disagree. It is a youthful bust with a diadem and drapery. Definitely Roman, so I agree it is Diadumenian…Macrinus’ son.
     
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  12. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

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    Hi @PeteB, thanks for your thoughts.

    With only the auction description to go by ( the coin is unique ) i checked through the city coinage for a Reverse that fits.
    The above coin ( L.Verus ) is described as Apollo/ Laureate/ Draped with a Laurel branch before.
    Pretty much the same Reverse only difference is that Apollo is more attractively engraved.

    I think it would be wrong to jump to the conclusion that it is Diadumenian without considering the known Reverse type of Apollo from this city.
    There is also the problem with the bust being Laureate, surely if it was Diadumenian it would have no headwear ( correct me if i am wrong )

    With this information & nothing to back up the Diadumenian thought, i have no choice but to say that it is Apollo on the Reverse.

    I hope that made sense :confused:
     
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  13. Nicholas Molinari

    Nicholas Molinari Well-Known Member

    The nose is somewhat reminiscent of Diadumenian.
     
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  14. PeteB

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    Good research! That example is definitely Apollo!!
    If the OP coin is Apollo, it has to be a really terrible engraving.
     
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  15. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Yes, you are incorrect.
    DiadumenAntioch9.jpg
    Diadumenian. 218 AD. Seleucis and Pieria, Antioch. Æ As (18mm). Obv: Laureate head, right, i.e., as Augustus. Rev: SC; Δ above, Ε below; all within laurel wreath fastened at top with star. BMC 414; McAlee 753, "...struck in the final days of his reign." "Very Rare." From the same obverse die as McAlee 753's illustrated specimen.
     
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  16. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    Yes you are right, there are Tets also that show him Radiate or Laureate & the odd provincial too.
    However, those are coins issued for Diadumenian.

    I should have been clearer in saying any coin of Macrinus which shows Diadumenian on either side, won't have Diadumenian Laureate.
    My apologies for not being clearer ;)
     
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