Kennedy's - Cameo Kennedy's and the late 60's - Some Questions on Grading

So I have been collecting them for years. I am still learning as I have been using TPG graded halves to learn what Cameo, Deep Cameo, and Grades are. I look to them for guidance and expertise to attempt to grade them myself.

Here is the dilemma. I have PR67,68,and 69 DCAM halves of the years 1968,1969, and 1970. Yes I have a few SMS but those are another animal all together. There is no consistency and at the cost of grading them, it is unacceptable.

What I was missing was a PR69DCAM 1968-S. Well I finally got one after bidding on at least 8 of them. They are the hardest to get of the three. What I got was a PCGS graded coin (the best right?).




I get it in and look at it. It is nice but.....so I get out my previous highest graded 1968, a PR68 Ultra Cameo from NGC. I was shocked, I called the wife and had her look, I asked my brother and hands down the NGC PR68 is better then the PCGS PR69. yes I have looked and the grade is what it is, the NGC in my eyes grades better and it is a PR68. It can not be seen well enough from a picture but there are no significant differences in the 'dings' in the coins, none but for sure, 100% sure the NGC is GRADES of Cameo higher. I am not expert but I am not ignorant of what I am looking for either, at least I do not think so.

See what you think,





Here is the best way I can describe what I am seeing,




The PCGS cost more, a LOT more.

This is a great example of buy the coin not the label....eBay is a gamble without good pics.

I have no one to blame but me, but I would guarantee you that if you collect Kennedy's and was given the change to pick of these, there is no doubt which one you would pick.

Thoughts?

 

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You have the coins in hand, so I would go with what you say. From the pictures it does look right, but like you say tough to tell in pictures. I would want to see them in hand before I made a final judgement.

 

I have two of the 1998-S Kennedy (avatar) satin finish that were part of the 2-coin Bobby Kennedy set. Both were graded MS69 by PCGS. One has a very small nick on it, and the other has no marks at all. Go figure!

Buy the coin, not the slab!

Chris

 

Yeah it was an eye opener, waited years now to get a 69 1968 and finally did and did not get a better coin....you win some and you loose some....

Also I have a MS69 graded 1998-S that I offered $100 for a while back at a coin show, its PCGS so its worth more right? Maybe not now...

 

About 10-12 years ago, the MS69 98-S was selling at $275 or so. It has dropped quite a bit since then.

Chris

 

The 1998-S has dropped but I would say 100 is a bit low. On eBay they seem to go for 150-170, so I would say, you should be able to net 125-130 after fees.

 

I do not want to sell the King of the Kennedy's at all. I had purchased a proof set with one for $200 and just saw that one and made an offer. What I was getting at is the grade of MS69 and not SP69, which means it was graded early.

 

Got it. It is certainly the King of the Kennedy set, and one of my favorites along with the 2014 enhanced unc silver Kennedy.

 

That was for sure the one of the four I liked most, actually bought one slabbed that was PL, want one DPML but can not sell the house yet...