Kennedy Half Question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bruce 1947, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Hi All,
    Today I finished my Kennedy set I only needed two coins the 1990 p&d the set is a mix of u.n.c and circulated coins but in my roll searching I have not found a 1990 p&d that looked good so I went to a coin shop to look for a u.n.c 1990 p&d. To my surprise even the uncirculated did not look that good ,the hairlines on Kennedys head looked flat and wore down And I looked a five of each but at $3.25 each I gave in and got them. So my question is were all the business strikes for that year and at both mints just not up to par the d-mint looks a lettle better but not by much.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Following are the design changes and dates for same on the Kennedy half as taken from Mike Locke's site -


    1964 Kennedy, silver
    Proof exists with or without high relief detail in the hair. Business
    strikes only come low relief.

    1965-1969 Kennedy, silver clad
    1970 As above, effigy larger (largest?)
    Not released to circulation.

    1971 Kennedy Cu-Ni clad, effigy much smaller
    1972-1973 As above, effigy slightly larger
    1974-1980 As above, effigy slightly larger
    1976 Kennedy Cu-Ni bicentennial
    1981-1982 Effigy enlarged again
    1983-1986 Obv lettering farther from rim, hair detail greatly reduced
    ?? The coins in my collection from 1973-1986, except the bicentennials
    seem to have texturing on Kennedy's face and neck. Was there a hub change
    in 1973?

    The hair is so featureless that you might think Kennedy is bald. Don't
    mistake this for wear.

    Even the proofs in this date range come with mushy details and weak
    strikes, especially 1983-1984.

    1987-1988 Rev revised, relief greatly reduced, effigy cheeks smoothed
    Starting with this issue striking quality improves markedly.

    1989-1990 Hair detail added, effigy much smaller
    1991-1994 Hair details emboldened
    Details bolder, with no apparent positional changes

    1995- Redraw obverse: More hair detail, relief changed,
    smaller letters, WE does not touch bust, etc



    As you can see, the relief was reduced in '87 - '88. But then more hair details were added '91 - '94. And my personal experience has been that the '93 coins can be found well struck and with good detail. It is possible that you have only run across examples struck with worn dies so far.
     
  4. pcrdnadave

    pcrdnadave Senior Member

    I think a large percentage went to casinos. JMHO
     
  5. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    After searching thousands of rolls back east here, I only found three 1990P coins worth keeping. And never came upon a 1990D at all. Most of the 1990P were very weak.
     
  6. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    VICTOR,
    I have an extra circulated 1990-d if you wan't it it's yours let me know I will send it out to you.
     
  7. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Sure. How can I refuse? I do have a second set going in a blue Whitman folder. I sold my two complete sets of 1964 to 1985 for $48. That's $24 each, too cheap I think. Another dealer offered me only $23 each.
    The second set needs a 1990D.
    My Dansco is complete all except I can't find a good 2002P. All the 2002P coins I've seen at dealers shops are too beat up. They still want $2.50 or $3.50 for that junk.
    I'll send you a circ. 1990P for a spare.
     
  8. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Victor,
    No need to send me a coin the one I am going to send you is just so you can fill that hole all 1990-d just look bad.
     
  9. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Gee thanks Bruce. Since that fiasco with the Gold Indian I've taken to searching rolls of Lincoln cents.
    Found a few interesting varieties and filled a few holes in my collection.
    Back to square one.
    Also bought 50 random Jefferson nickles and started a folder for them.
    Then started putting together a Mercury dime album.
     
  10. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Were the Jefferson nickels circulated ?
     
  11. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    The mint set coins aren't too bad.

    Typical coins tend to be marked up and there are more mushy strikes than other date mint set halfs. The nicest ones are on par with other dates of the era but a little tougher. About 2% look nice.
     
  12. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    Yes. I bid on two lots of 25 on eBay. The first lot of 25 cost $5.50 and the second lot there were no other bidders. So the second lot of 25 was only 99 cents. The lots were the same as far as the coins go.
    Both lots were advertised as 1938 to 1964. But shoot, I got NO 1938s. I had some from childhood so I threw a folder together. Most of what I bought I already had. Missing a great many but it's a start.
     
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