Kassandros with a counter mark

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  1. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    My most recent FAC purchases came in the mail today. I was going to go ahead & use the seller pics, which I already have on one of them. But now I don't have to.
    A couple of days ago I believe it was Topcat (sorry if I'm mistaken) posted a counter marked Julia Domna. I mentioned that I saw but passed on it. The reason I did was I saw 3 other listings that caught my eye & well I'm on a rather tight budget for the next few months & honestly I'm not used to being on a budget. Recent happenings within the family realm of things has made me re-evaluate my finances for a short time.
    Anyway these coins screamed out to me. I'm only going to share 1 today then maybe another tomarrow. This one first because it also has a counter mark that intrigued me. The coin itself is rough has some corrosion & is pitted throughout. The obverse isn't that good. But like I said it's 1 of 3 that screamed to me. None of the 3 are in the greatest shape but it does get better from this one.

    Kassandros from Macedonia with countermark on Reverse
    AE 19mm 6.32g 306-297 BC Amphipolis
    Obv.: Head of Herackles in lion skin Right
    Rev.: Horseman Right (countermark)
    SNG Muich 1001 RV.
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    If anyone can identify the counter mark that would be great to know.
    Post what ever you want to contribute. I like seeing what everybody has.
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice job! The Reverse and the Countermark are GREAT!

    I have a few Kassanders and will be getting an AR sometime soon...

    Makedon - Kassander 319-297 BCE AE 20 Herakles  - Youth on Horse prancing SG 6754 O-R.JPG
    Makedon - Kassander 319-297 BCE AE 20 Herakles - Youth on Horse prancing SG 6754 O-R.JPG

    Makedon AE 20 Kassander 319-297 BC Herakles Horse prancing S 6754 var SNG Cop 1142 O-R.JPG
    Makedon AE 20 Kassander 319-297 BC Herakles Horse prancing S 6754 var SNG Cop 1142 O-R.JPG

    Makedon Kassander 316-297 BCE AE15 Herakles Lion reclining SNG Cop 1140.JPG
    Makedon Kassander 316-297 BCE AE15 Herakles Lion reclining SNG Cop 1140.JPG
     
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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Very nice - I think most collectors of countermarked coins are willing to put up with lower grades if the mark is clear. I know I am. I'm assuming the mark is the top of a caduceus, upside-down in the orientation of your pic. Or is it something else?
     
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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I have never been into countermarks, but some I have found appealing, the OP is one of them. Nice addition.
     
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  6. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I'm not sure. The rider & horse is fairly common. The legend or markings along with the counter mark I don't find any references on, but I haven't spent much time on it yet either.
     
  7. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Very nice op coin!

    I am always a little surprised to see such deep countermarks on relatively hard bronze coins without causing any cracking. Did they heat the coins before punching in the countermark? They must lay the coin on a leather pad on an anvil before punching to avoid flattening the obverse design.

    Anyone know the mechanics of countermark striking?

    John
     
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  8. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Here's 1 of my first ancients. With youth on horseback Left
    20160619_074417_1473558587894.jpg 20160619_074327_1473558332508.jpg it's an old pic.
     
  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Still looking for a nice Tet from Kassander ,
    in the mean time this will do.
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  10. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I think you are correct it does look like a caduceas.
    It's taken me a while to really look at it. I did however find a nice VRBS to complement the one I got from you a couple months back. Different mint. I'm amazed the difficulty to find them not heavily worn.
     
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