K&M World Gold Coins 5th Ed

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by silvereagle82, Mar 17, 2005.

  1. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    I can't find "The Netherlands"... I have found Austrian Netherlands,Spanish Netherlands but not just "Kingdom of the Netherlands"

    Can anyone help?
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The countries should be listed alphabetically - just look under the N's.
     
  4. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    :D Come on Doug, give me more credit than that :rolleyes: .....It isn't there just Netherland Antilles, Netherlands East Indies only!
    I'm looking for KM#83.1 Ducat,
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well I'd be glad to give ya the page number but all I have is the 4th edition - so it wouldn't do much good.

    I thought perhaps you were looking under K for Kingdom of based on the way you worded your first post.

    Did they perhaps break the book up by century this time ?

    What info on the coin do ya want and I'll look it up for ya ?
     
  6. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Doug,
    No, I studied the book extensively for several hours yesterday and today and I can't figure it out, it's like they forgot it ???? I just sent an email to Krause Publishing Book Division and asked them.

    I have a 2004 K&M World Coins 1901+ book so I can find the info on the modern Netherland ducats, but thanks anyway. I was just trying to cross-reference to see if the info/photo was the same and check the Pre 1900 dates.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmmmm - well if ya just wanna see pics - you might be able to find a few ducats right here :D
     
  8. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    The 19th Century SCWC lists KM#83.1 as 3.5g of .983 gold (.1106 oz. AGW) dated 1849, 1872-74, 1876-80, 1885, 1894-95 and 1899. It also lists 1895/55 and 1895/59, and mentions that examples also exist for 1901-1937; all minted at Utrecht.

    KM#83.1a is listed as a rare 1868 bronze version.

    There is also a St. Petersburg 1849 listed as KM#83.2.

    If you're looking for Krause value on a particular year, I'll be glad to check it for you.
     
  9. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Well well I knew I wasn't going blind or crazy after all!
     

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  10. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    There ya go. :D
     
  11. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Roy,
    I'm still disappointed that my nice hardback bound reference book is already tainted.... I sent Krause Publishing a response to that letter asking them to make sure the "supplement" is hardback bound to match the $100 (I only paid $65) Catalog I bought. Haven't gotten a response yet.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wouldn't count on that. I'd expect some 8 1/2 x 11 pages stapled together.
     
  13. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    And probably just database printouts without pictures. :(

    But don't knock it - most publishers would just tell you the anticipated date of the next edition and promise to correct the error then. :D
     
  14. Bacchus

    Bacchus Coin Duffer

    I looked at your pics, Doug; those are incredible ! If I had more time and money for coins, I think old European gold is the direction I'd go. They're beautiful, they have history, they're dignified (Pandas, anyone ?), they look the way I think coins should look (lotsa detail, a certain radial symmetry).

    For a given amount of gold (e.g., one ounce), are those coins more expensive than 19th century American gold coins because they're so old (and presumably rare) (small supply), or are they cheaper because fewer people are collecting them (small demand) ?
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Thanks for the kind words :D

    As for your question, and I can only answer in a general sense without going into great detail about each individual coin - the majority of the coins you saw were struck in fewer numbers and have fewer surviving examples than most 19th century US gold coins. Yet they cost a fraction of what the US coins of similar quality do.

    You asked your question based on a given amount of gold but it can't really be answered in that manner as there is not a single gold coin there that weighs an ounce. So when I compare them to US coins, I compare them to coins of similar weight.
     
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