Just got the elusive 1916 Barber Half....

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Morgandude11, May 18, 2015.

  1. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Yupp, it is pretty elusive. In fact it does not exist. However, the Daniel Carr fantasy coin restrike does, and I just ordered one. Here is the seller's picture, until mine arrives. It is ostensibly MS 67+, and looks really neat in the seller photo:

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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Attractive, but not into fantasy pieces
     
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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Isn't the word "COPY" supposed to be on it?

    Chris
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    No more than it's supposed to be on a hobo nickel or an elongated penny. In each case, a modification is made to a legal-tender coin, but without intent to deceive or defraud.
     
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  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    On another note, I'm fed up with regretting not buying the Carr fantasy restrikes. I think I'm in on this one, especially since I've already completed my set of actual Barber halves.
     
  7. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter


    Thanks for posting, just ordered mine and will send it off the ANACS after it arrives.
     
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  8. Silverhouse

    Silverhouse Well-Known Member

    I ordered 2. I always miss out on these Carr pieces when they are first offered. I normally don't collect them. The one other CARR piece I did get was the 2003 D Sacagawea prototype which I gave to a friend as a gift. I find the prices on ebay and other sources are much higher on resale. I was happy to see they were very affordable.
     
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  9. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Do third party graders actually grade copy coins ?
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I've seen DCarr coins in ANACS and ICG slabs. I don't suppose PCGS and NGC grade them, at least not yet.

    Edit: see above, and many other threads, for "copy" vs. "fantasy restrike" discussion. Since there never was a 1916 Barber half, this isn't a "copy" of anything. "Altered surfaces", sure...
     
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  11. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    Yes, but I was just wondering, if they grade a non-coin, would they grade say a fake Chinese trade dollar, or just body bag it ?
     
  12. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    There should be the word "counterfeit" stamp across the Lib's cheek.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Not a COPY.
    A fantasy piece
     
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  14. medjoy

    medjoy Active Member

    Anyone know how many will be minted?
     
  15. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    So you are saying this is not a COPY of a Barber half?:rolleyes:
     
  16. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's precisely what we're saying. It's an alteration of a Barber half. Or, if you prefer, the destruction of a Barber half.

    I suppose you can talk about "copies" of coins that never existed, like this one, but it seems a bit silly to me.
     
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  17. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Usually in the neighborhood of 250-350. They are in demand, generally. And to answer a previous question, no other company will slab the Carr coins except for ANACS--they slab all of them--restrikes, tokens, etc.
     
  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Nope, as it is a fantasy coin that does not exist. Daniel Carr dates his coins with a date and mintmark that never existed, so it is a fantasy coin, much as any token is.
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    So, you mean that anyone can strike a coin with identical details to those found on a United States coin - denomination, In God We Trust, United States of America and E Pluribus Unum - and just because it has a date that never existed, it is legal?

    Chris
     
  20. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    1964-D MS69 + Bulk MS64.jpg
    NOTICE They are grades as TOKENS
     
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  21. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    IMO,no...No difference if I were to strike the coins in my basement.
     
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