Just found a 1972 DDO

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by pennsteve, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure this is a DDO and not machine doubling. I've only been searching rolls for a few months and never thought I'd find a DD. Please tell me this is genuine? lol

    That stuff around the 2 looked like green lint. I used a dull toothpick and removed it after I took the pictures. It wasn't really stuck to the coin. With the shape it's in, I know it's not worth much. It's just cool to finally find something after searching so much.
     

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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    It appears to be machine doubling. The effect is flattened which is a sign of such.

    Sorry,
    Jim
     
  4. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    I agree, I think it is MD(if that is machine doubling)
     
  5. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Amazingly enough, the 1972 cent has six varieties of doubled dies. However its also notorious for having machine doubling issues. If you have a cherrypickers guide, you can compare what you have with the various types of doubled dies for that year.
     
  6. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    I used a crappy aiptek camera for these pictures. I am actually able to put my loupe on the front of the camera to get a better zoom, but it still doesn't take good pictures. When I look through the loupe it doesn't look flat like in the pictures. I guess I'll just take it to a coin shop, but even if it is a DD it's not in great shape and won't be worth much.
     
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Machine doubling damage
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

  9. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Machine doubling.
     
  10. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    im incline to say md
     
  11. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I'm a little torn on this one.

    Post images of LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST.
     
  13. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    The secondary profiles on the date are flat and there is no notching.
     
  14. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I;'d still like pictures of the other devices on the coin since doubled dies can also have machine doubling. The entire coin should be evaluated instead of focusing in on one specific area. Especially with these 1972 Lincolns.
     
  15. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Look at the drawing where you see the "notch", indicated. An important factor is that the part offset to the left is close to the same "Height" as the original. This is important, because occasionally ( just due to the direction of the machine doubling) you can see a notch on machine doubling, BUT it will be between a normal height regular device and a flattened machine doubled portion.

    Jim
     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Look at the notching on the "1" and the "9" of my 1936 Lincoln DDO. Notice that each side of the notch is about the same height. That indicates that the working die was pressed twice with the hub die at about the same pressure after annealing, but that both were not aligned correctly.
    Jim

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  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Here is a photo of the 1972/72 Lincoln Die #1. Again notivce the height similiarity and the notching.

    Jim



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  19. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    I'm not trying to resurrect this thread, but didn't think I should start a new one to ask my question. First of all, I've been studying up a little and now realize that my coin is machine doubled. I was thinking about this a few days ago. Back around 1978 or 79 (was still a kid) is when I first heard about doubled die coins and the 1955 and 1972 DD. Ever since then I have checked every 1972 I've come across and never found even a machine doubled 72. Since I haven't found one until now, I am assuming that MD 72's aren't very common, and if not, why aren't they worth anything? I know, stupid question. :)
     
  20. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I've found dozens of 72's with md. but then I've looked at probably 5,000 or more 1972 cents. I still have yet to find a dd.
     
  21. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    So they are more common than I thought. I just never found one until now. lol. Thanks.
     
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