Just bought this rare Domitian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    So a little while ago I posted a rare Domitian in response to a thread. David saw the post and commented that there was another rare Domitian of the same type but with a slight variation. He also suggested that I might find interesting to have both.

    Well I looked for this coin for the past week and finally stumbled across an example. It is now mine. I feel very lucky to have found this and it will make a great addition to my 12 Caesars set. It will also be nice to have the pair.

    My sincere thanks to David for pointing out the existence of this variety.

    Here is the coin I already had.

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    Domitian. AR denarius (18.15 mm, 3.36 g, 7 h). Rome mint, struck A.D. 81.

    Obv: IMP CAESAR DOMITIANVS AVG, laureate head right

    Rev: TR P COS VII, draped throne, back decorated with grain ears. RIC 3; BMCRE 2; RSC 554a.

    Ex: William Rosenblum Coins Ex:Agora Auctions March 22, 2016 lot 52-174

    Purchased from Agora Auctions March 22, 2016.

    And here is the new acquisition.

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    Domitian (AD 81-96). AR denarius (3.02 gm). Rome, AD 81. Obv: Laureate head of Domitian right. Rev: Throne with triangular back decorated with corn ears. RIC 2. RSC 554a.

    Now can anyone spot the difference?
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Several differences to the reverse, mainly the design of the back of the throne and what appears to be a dot beneath the drape. I also prefer the portrait of your second coin. This portrait style is from early in his reign I believe. Later he had a face-lift and straightened his nose.
     
  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    @Bing
    Nicely done. You have found some of the differences, but there is one left and it is also on the reverse. You are right about the portrait style, this coin was minted in the few few weeks of his reign as Augustus. He indeed had quite the nose job on subsequent coins.

    I prefer the portraits on these coins for their honesty.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The bottom of the drapery is different as well.
     
  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    True, but that is not the one I am looking for.:)
     
  7. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I see the difference! Nice coin, by the way!
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The dots to each side?
     
  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Sorry, no.
     
  10. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Nice catch. I didn't know the variety existed until David pointed it out either. I have not actively looked for one but am learning to look for varietits in the Flavian coins thanks to you guys.
     
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  11. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Yes, I see the difference as well, but I wont spoil it! Keep looking people!
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Okay. All I see is the arm differences and the bottom right of the drape. Otherwise I will wait till someone else points it out.
     
  13. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you encountered no impediments to buying this coin. Am I warm?
     
  14. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    LOL
    Yes you are close.
     
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  15. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    Well, I'll let the mystery go a little while longer then.
     
  16. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    It would also be interesting to see if anyone can identify what it is (I know, but wont say!).

    Keep having fun!
     
  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what's the do dad above the drapery on the back of the throne on the second? is that "it"?
     
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  18. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Yes, Chris you got "it". Now, for extra points that are absolutely worthless, what is the name of that "doodad"?
     
  19. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I think the answer might be simple, but I often get it literally confused with something else.

    OK, I'm going to quit trying to incorporate hints in my posts. Too taxing.
     
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  20. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

  21. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Wikipedia has an interesting article on it....OK. Me too. Gonna stop!
     
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