jefferson nickel

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jnesbitt82, Aug 9, 2004.

  1. jnesbitt82

    jnesbitt82 New Member

    My wife and I were searching through 4000 nickels pulling all of the early dates while we can still get them at face value when we found a nickel with a perfect unc reverse but the front is completly blank? All the info I can find on blank coins refer to the coins being completly blank, not just one side. Any comments?
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I guess it could have been a capped die error. Can you post a pic of both sides of the coin ?
     
  4. jnesbitt82

    jnesbitt82 New Member


    I will try, all I have is a web cam
     
  5. jnesbitt82

    jnesbitt82 New Member

    I have some pictures but it says the file is too big.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  7. jnesbitt82

    jnesbitt82 New Member

    I sent the pictures. Let me know if you get them and what you think.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Here are the pics of jnesbitt82's nickel error.

    Now I guessed it was perhaps a capped die error. But not being an error collector I could easy be wrong. And as for value - I don't have a clue.
     

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  9. jnesbitt82

    jnesbitt82 New Member

    Thanks GDJMSP. Do you think I should have it graded?
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Actually I do - yes.
     
  11. Pennycase

    Pennycase New Member

    My personal opinion....May be counter brockage error, that is what I believe it is anyways...Look that term up, and see what you come up with.
     
  12. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I really don't think it's a counter brockage, penny.
    You see, a counter brockage is the result of an unstruck planchet, and a brockage error, being in the striking chamber at the same time.
    When the dies come together, the planchet is left with the design of a die on one side, and an incuse design of the brockage on the other.

    The OP's coin has, what appears to be, a fully struck reverse design, and a completely blank obverse.
    The rim apears to be upset.

    I am thinking that the coin is either a capped die error, or it has been altered.
     
  13. Pennycase

    Pennycase New Member

    Could it have been the start of how they would make a two headed nickel, except they went for tails on this one perhaps? I'm not really familiar with the process on how they do this, but, i'm sure one side they would have to make absolute flat in the center, which would be cause for the rim to be upset as well?, to either try and pass it off as a real mint error, or perhaps just make a better quality magicians coin
     
  14. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Yes, I considered that possibility, too.

    I suppose we will never know, for sure, if it's altered or, in fact, a genuine Mint error, until it is examined by an expert.
     
  15. Pennycase

    Pennycase New Member

    I've got three differant coins right now that no one has ever seen errors like they have ( no one around southern oklahoma )... a penny, a nickel, and a dime. Most who have seen it have concluded that it could have only happend in the mint process...I've got my local coin dealer sending close pictures of the rim on the dime to Fred Weinberg, with some kind of equipment made for that sort of thing, but, this is the first one i'm letting out in the open and actually trying to figure it out, i'll let you all know in a seperate thread what is said about it.
     
  16. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Good luck, Penny.
    Hope the news is good.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    I really don't think so - for the same reason you mention - the one side would be perfectly flat. When they make a two-side coin - one side is hollowed out with an endmill by someone in a machine shop.

    But with this coin - the obverse is not flat. There are raised areas - which what makes me think it is the result of a capped die.
     
  18. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    I would love to see this coin in person. The only other possible conclusion that I could come up with would be a split planchet. Basing an opinion strictly from the photos provided, a capped die is the best possibility.
     
  19. jnesbitt82

    jnesbitt82 New Member

    I am thinking of sending it to either PCGS or NGC. Who would you guys recommend?
     
  20. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    NGC would be my choice. If you are not a member of the NGC Collector's Society, or an ANA member - then you could have a dealer you know submit it for you.
     
  21. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I would be interested to know what you all think about the possibility that this is an indent error. In other words, the result of two planchets being in the striking chamber at the same time.
     
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