I ran across this 'budget' example of an uncertain denomination---it's classified by reference and auction sale as either a Dupondius or a Sestertius. It's heavily worn and probably of little interest to many, but I happen to be one of the few who think it's worth about $50.00 or so. It appears to be genuine since the seller is well regarded by several experienced collectors that CT members know and respect---these individuals have bought from this seller before and have placed bids on his coins currently being offered. I suspect the coin is a 'ancient imitation' based on the rather crude and stylized portraits, but the weight seems to be greater than those usually designated as such----between 5.42 to 7.91 grams for 'verified' imitations and 11.60 grams for this particular example. It seems a typical dupondius/sestertius of this type averages about 19 grams. Although I did find one example that matches the weight if not the styling. The above suggests a possible fake or a slightly unusual genuine example. The highly regarded seller states he found it using a metal detector in Southern France. I have thrown a modest bid (and maximum) for it, willing to take a chance it's genuine and believing it is worth the small cost if not. Of course, it is returnable. All comments and opinions are welcome. Dupondius/Sestertius of Julius Caesar and Octavianus circa 43-30 BC Laurel wreathed bust of Caesar right, DIVOS IVLIVS Bare head of Octavianus right, CAESAR DIVI F Crawford 535/1 RPC 1 620 Below are some examples for general comparison...the first an 'ancient imitation' and the others from various auction sales.
Yes, "totally looks branch mint from Spain (or wherever)" to me too I have one of these denominations, but with just one portrait on it (and as worn as they come). I assume it's a Dupondius and it comes from Italy, but who knows....I'd love to have the dual portrait one Octavian, Dupondius Minted in Italy 38 BC DIVI F, bare head of Octavian right DIVOS IVLIVS, in a laurel wreath 27.07 gr Ref : HCRI # 309, RCV # 1570 Q
AUGUSTUS (OCTAVIAN) AE Dupondius OBVERSE: CAESAR DIVI F, bare head of Octavian right REVERSE: DIVOS IVLIVS, wreathed head of Julius Caesar right Gallic or Italian mint 38 BC 30mm; 17.90 g CR535/v1, RPC620v
Nice coin, Mikey. Definitely looks Celtiberian to me. I don't there are any worries about authenticity.
Thanks everyone for the terrific posts and comments!!! I agree that the coin certainly has all the 'attributes' of Celtiberian origins---it shouts Hispania. I can't help wondering where it was originally struck and under whose authority, let alone how it ended up 'lost' in Southern France---probably unknowable but utterly intriguing to me. Was it part of a legionaries 'change' or perhaps part of a merchants money purse??? The historical context within it, not to mention a decent dual portrait of JC and Octavian, make it all the more desirable to me. Thanks again!
That 'wear' is often on quite a lot of my 'better' types. But I'm quite tolerant of lower grades as you all know by now. LOL It's a terrific example 'Q'
