Japan pre-Meiji Coin Haul (Koban and Silver)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by kazuma78, Apr 27, 2022.

  1. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    I was very fortunate to have picked up a nice grouping of pre-meiji Japanese coinage in the last few weeks and couldn't wait to share once I had them in hand. I have always had an affinity for Japanese coinage for many reasons and it is one of the few types of relatively modern coinage I still collect. If you have any Japanese coinage, feel free to post it here so we can all geek out about it. Without further ado, here are my winnings:

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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Those are beautiful!!! I'll have to get some eventually.How big are they in person? IMG_20220411_200216.jpg IMG_20220411_200250.jpg
     
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  4. kazuma78

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    The Tempo Koban and older are slightly smaller than the whole size of a PCGS slab and weigh a little over 11 grams. The Man'en Koban are smaller and only about 3.3 grams and about the size of a silver dollar, but oval. The price difference between the 2 types isn't significant, so for the money I would go for the Tempo or older if I was just buying 1 representative example since they are larger. I wanted one of both types, and also was thrilled to get a slightly older Bunsei one also. The photo I posted is good for size comparison as the smaller PCGS slab is a regular sized slab.
     
  5. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Here's a coin I posted a couple of years ago, with my description from then:
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    apan, Nagasaki trade coinage. c.1668-1685. Gen Ho Tsu Ho. Hartill EJC 3.176.

    Although this coin copies the inscription of a Chinese coin from the Northern Song dynasty, it was actually made at Nagasaki, Japan c.1668-1685. Starting in 1641, Nagasaki was the only port in Japan allowed to trade with Vietnam. They petitioned for the right to cast their own coinage to facilitate this foreign trade, and it was eventually granted, but with the stipulation that the coins could not carry the same inscriptions as official Japanese coins. So, they copied old Chinese coins, which had circulated in Japan for centuries. This type is the most common, but other inscriptions exist. The Nagasaki copies can be distinguished by the different script style from the Chinese originals.
     
  6. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I like your new coins a lot, congratulations on the purchases!

    I've been collecting Japanese coins casually for a long time:
    Occupation money:
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    Japan 2 shu kin Tempo 1832-58 0.298 Au
    Japan 2 shu kin Tempo 1832-58 0.298 Au.jpg

    Japan Kanei Tsuhou 文 1668-83
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    One I purchased when living in Japan: Meiji 41 1908 20 Sen
    Japan Meiji 41 1908 20 Sen.jpg

    Paper money
    1 yen 1946, 50 sen 1938, 10 sen 1947.jpg
     
  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Wow! My jaw just hit the ground. Amazing set. Wow. Very nice. Envy is thee word.
     
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  8. kazuma78

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    Thanks! I was VERY lucky, which seems to be a rarity in auctions these days.
     
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  9. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I have a couple, here's a pic of one of mine! :D ANACS pics!

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  11. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Wow! Those are beautiful pre-Meiji coins! Did they come out of an auction?

    I only have one pre-Meiji gold coin that I've posted before, a Bunsei Koban, Edo Mint.

    KM-C22a

    13.1 grams

    D-Camera Japan Koban. Bunsei era. Edo mint, 13.1 grams World-Wide 2-10-21.jpg

    I used to have more Japanese yens, but now I am down to my 1870 yen, which needs to be photographed.

    The other Japanese crown that I have is a trade dollar, year 10 (1877), purchased from Heritage back in March 1992 (30th anniversary!).

    Dav. 275

    27.19 grams

    D-Camera Japan trade dollar 1877 Meiji year 10 Dav 275 27.19g rarest date Heritage 3-92 4-28-22.jpg
     
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  12. kazuma78

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    That's a nice Koban! I would love to pick up some more Japanese pieces, but they seem to have all went up in price quite a bit the last 3 years or so.

    They did all come from an auction, though from an auctioneer who doesn't normally handle that type of material. So while they weren't cheap, I also don't think they sold at the top of the retail range either. So I was pretty happy with that.
     
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  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Yes, prices for Japanese coins, especially rare coins, have shot up.

    I was lucky to buy the koban about 20 years ago, from a World-wide Coins of California auction, when Jim Elmen had a few of the same type listed in the catalog. I guess there were tied bids, so he allocated one to me.
     
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