James I 'Rose' Penny ??

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Topcat7, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I recently missed out on buying a James I 'Rose' Penny, and the seller felt sorry for me and sent me what he called a James I, 'Rose' Penny (in poor condition) as a consolation. (Bless him.)
    However, I don't see a James I 'Rose' Penny when i look at the coin.
    I am hoping that there is enough left of this coin to give someone an idea.
    I would welcome your thoughts on it.

    14 mm., 0.7 gm.,
    Magical Snap - 2016.03.26 09.59 - 081.jpg
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Looks like a piece of stone but I'm way uninitiated........:)
     
  4. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Well it still has some details. At the top of your first picture the edge text clearly shows "REX". I also see a crowned rose in the centre of the first picture, where the top of the crown now points towards 5-o'clock.
    Could be a Charles I Rose Farthing ?
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2016
  5. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @>THCoins - I thank-you for your input. Is that possibly a 'G' after the 'X'?
    I have rotated the photograph to put the Crown to the top, to see if that helps you further. (In the meantime I am off to check on Charles I 'Rose' Farthing.)
    Magical Snap - 2016.03.27 06.11 - 086.jpg
     
  6. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Sorry, mistyped in my first answer. Still need to turn the last picture 90 degrees clockwise to get the crown on top. The top of the crown are the two little curves visible. What you see as "G" probably is a lying crescent.
     
  7. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Using your ref. (I like it, too),
    CHARLES I 1636-1644 Copper Farthing (R)a.jpg
    I agree with the 'reclining' crescent (as a 'stop').
    I think that you are right ( a lot closer than I was) with your attribution.
    Thank-you.
     
  8. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Actually, if this coin would have been totally featureless, it would still be possible to attribute, as this is one of the earliest modern bi-metallic coins. Especially in your second picture you can see a wedge shaped part which looks different from the rest. This is a brass plug which has been put in the copper planchets to discourage counterfeits.
     
  9. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    O.K. I did not know that.
    Thank-you.
     
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