Jack Young’s Fun with Fakes- 1795 Flowing Hair Dollar$

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  1. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    I am working on a concept for articles on some of the less deceptive raw fakes currently seen on the internet selling venues. The 1st one with that in mind is this counterfeit 1795 dollar…

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    The recent one was listed on the Bay and was gaining traction before it went poof:

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    I posted it in one of my FB Groups for attribution help and was quickly told the source was a 1795 BB-27, commonest variety of the date.

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    Reviewing images of the subject coin I noted some marks for comparison to others I had archived:

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    And going through my saved images yielded these three with matching marks:

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    And the kicker (there is always a kicker!) is the one on the right is dated 1794 and in a fake PCGS holder!

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    And the twist!

    A little more searching yielded this one with the matching reverse marks:

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    And for a whole lot less than the $510.00 bid on the Bay example!

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    I understand they can be purchased without the pesky “COPY” stamp…

    Best Jack.
     
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

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    :oops: I :shame: Read the thread again.

    The date on the Ali Babba counterfeit is much better.
     
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  4. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    The fake '95's look much like the source used for them; punched in other dates seem to always look off...
     
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  5. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Is graffiti being added to some of these to lend an air of authenticity?
     
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  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Enjoyed the read, thank you.
     
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  7. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Seems like the large hole in the left ribbon is pretty obvious too.
     
  8. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    I thought so too until I found a low grade example image...

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  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Jack D. Young, posted: "I thought so too..."

    Ditto, then I did what you did. I wish we had the Internet in the old days!
     
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  10. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Revision to my rough draft- found a Bay seller with several of these listed. Some will sneak past...

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    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

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