I've been starved for new coins, so here's an old one

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ardatirion, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Hello, my name is Ardatirion and its been four months since my last coin. (NB - Coin Addicts anonymous is a failed concept. The moment you get your one month chip you relapse). I picked this one up a few months ago for a good price. Its a match to another example that I'm sure will turn up somewhere in this thread. Go ahead and share any tesserae you happen to have.



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    EGYPT, Uncertain
    PB Tessera (20mm, 3.34 gm 2 h) Dated year 4 of an uncertain era
    Bust of Horus right, wearing stylized pschent crown, being crowned by Victory flying left; LΔ (date) to lower right
    Nilus recling left on crocodile, holding reeds and cornucopia, being crowned by Victory flying right
    Milne –; Dattari (Savio) 11642; Köln –; CNG E-353, lot 370 (same dies)​
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Four months since your last coin? Oh how sad :(. At least you are retaining your King of Tessera crown.

    I have only one tessera, undoubtedly seen by you during its cataloging:

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    EGYPT, Antinoöpolis. Antinous
    2nd-3rd centuries CE
    PB tessera, 25 mm, 7.63 gm, 11h
    Obv: draped bust of Antinous right, wearing hem-hem crown; crescent before, AN behind
    Rev: Serapis standing right, head left, raising hand and holding scepter; to left, ЄYC/YBA/[...]
    Ref: Milne –; Dattari (Savio) –;Köln –
    Per CNG: "A previously unseen reverse legend and unpublished tessera. Though difficult to read, the reverse legend appears to be some variation of the word Εὐσεβής (“pious")."

    I can't quite make out the reverse legend and plan to try making a rubbing to see if that lends any clarity. Finding tracing paper has proven difficult! No local stores seem to have any.
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i still don't have one of these things, but on the list.

    man, that sounded like you were in confession there...

    forgive me cointalkers, but it has been 4 months since my last coin.

    man, that's harsh. 20 hail caesars and picking up another new coin should absolve you.
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    You'd get more coins if you'd just lower your standards.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Btw, this made me laugh out loud, thanks for that, lol.

     
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  7. Hispanicus

    Hispanicus Stand Fast!

    Ardatirion,
    4 months demonstrates an enormous amount of will power and resolve. I don't know how you did it.

    My hat's off to you sir.
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Just be sure to call me if/when you decide to dispose of it. I'M CALLING DIBS. YOU'RE ALL WITNESSES.

    Oh, and here's another reference for it: Peus 386 (26 April 2006), lot 759 (same dies)
     
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  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Its not so much willpower as a lack of material. I've been underbidder on about five lots that were just going for more than they're worth.

    My standards are already rock-bottom. I'm just ultra-specialized.
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Thanks for that reference! I saw the example on Wildwinds but didn't know which auction it came from :)

    I will note the dibs in my records :D
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That first line sounds like something I'd say. In a world where average lots go for multiples of estimates, it is hard to figure just what anything really is worth.

    When a coin (and I assume token) is the best available and, at the same time, as ugly as sin (as are many pieces of old lead) we have to set standards accordingly. In the game you play, I'd be willing to grade TIF's piece as a very slightly impaired proof. I might propose a new grading standard based on how long you have to look at a piece before you are able to see the details that were pointed out in the catalog. Anything under a minute is VF; anything over a day is only Good. By that standard, the OP is Fine to my unleaded eyes (not that I don't have worse looking silver and bronze coins).
     
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  12. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Looks like you have been working on this addiction for years :)
     
  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thats one of the neater ones you have gotten, Bill.

    Nice addition.
     
  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thats one of the neater ones you have gotten, Bill.

    Nice addition.
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    All I have are those two you suggested for me Bill. I have no idea where they ARE, but in the pile somewhere.

    I have been Jonesing for some coins too. I bought that Elagabalus, and a few coins from the local shop. That has been it for about three months though. Why? Kind of bad luck on a couple of auctions, Doctoral tuition, and just life I guess. Don't worry, I am sure I cannot stay on the wagon. :)
     
  16. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Do Tesserae count as coins? hum...you should get another ancient coin, just in case. ;)
     
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  17. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I've spilled a lot of ink arguing that they are. :D
     
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  18. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Pretty sure you own one of the other two examples I know of for this type:
    http://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=287088
     
  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, looks vaguely familiar. :)
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet => Ardy, that's a cool lead-example (nice PB winner)

    4 months without buying a coin?!! (wow, your Monk-skills rival your coin-skills!!)


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    => Hey, do you remember this sweet lead-Baby?

    EGYPT, Uncertain, PB Tessera
    2nd-3rd centuries AD
    Diameter: 15 mm
    Weight: 4.82 grams
    Obverse: Head of Serapis right, wearing calathus; uncertain object before
    Reverse: Griffin seated right, resting right paw on wheel
    Reference: Milne –; Dattari (Savio) –; Köln
    Other: 5h … even gray patina with a spot of green, minor surface cracking

    Tessera Egypt Serapis and Griffin.jpg


    :rolleyes:
     
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