Islamic? I don't know. Can someone help here please?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Topcat7, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I know nothing about this AE 22.7, 2.50gm. Coin. (I cannot even be sure as to how I came by it. I am thinking that a friend gave it to me.)
    Anyway, I digress. Yes, I am at a loss here. Not Roman? Maybe Islamic?
    Can anyone assist with some information please?

    Magical Snap - 2017.12.19 08.49 - 054.jpg
    Some more shots from a different angle (and lighting).
    Magical Snap - 2017.12.19 08.56 - 059.jpg
     
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  3. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Yes, this is Islamic.
    The top line of your left picture seems to read "al-Sultan al-a'zam". Apart from that it is to far gone for me to attempt any attribution.
     
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  4. Severus Alexander

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    My hunch (not worth a lot) is Golden Horde. Something about the fabric and the flourish at the bottom.
     
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  5. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @THCoins Thank-you for that confirmation.
    Looking at my first photograph, can you tell me if the coins are 'aligned' correctly, (right way up), please?
     
  6. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    On your top photo, the left one is correctly aligned. The right seems to be an identical text to the left, but is positioned upside-down ?
     
  7. Charyolle Eileen

    Charyolle Eileen New Member

    i'm not really aure about this. But i've been heared urdu language,arabian language,hindi either shansekerta langeague had a similar chara teristic bout their alphabetic.
    Hopefully,this information will have you.
     
  8. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @THCoins You are so right.
    My inexperience with Islamic coins meant that I did not realise my mistake. In the first photo, the second 'shot' is of the same side of the coin as the first (in both photos). The only 'shot' of the other side of the coin is the last 'shot'.
    Can you please tell me if that 'shot' is aligned correctly?
     
  9. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

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  10. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Your last photo is arranged correctly. But i can lead only fragments.
     
  11. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I appreciate what you have contributed. It is my only 'Islamic' coin, and I will file it "Islamic Bronze (poss. 1240-1502)"
    Thank-you, again.
     
  12. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..Et.Al
     
  13. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    repetitive post
     
  14. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    13th century, more or less, I'd expect.
     
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  15. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I thought it might be a fals (copper coin) of the Rum Seljuqs, along these lines.
     
  16. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @Pellinore
    That would put it at 1220/1221AD which fits with @Severus Alexander 's 'Golden Horde' comment.
    Thank-you for the 'update'.
    Ties in nicely.
     
  17. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    I only wanted to show a coin that's a bit like yours, I would not put it into the same year!
     
  18. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @Pellinore
    That's O.K. Thanks.
    I am staying with 1240 - 1502AD.
    (My reference to the Gregorian date was for your example.)
    When I learn more about Islamic coins I may be able to 'pin' mine down more closely.
     
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  19. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Well, I'd put it in the 1200-1300 region, maybe more at the 1200 side. Your coin reminded me of the bold lettering of the Seljuqs, like this, a fals of Kai Kawus I (1211-1220).

    6820 SE.jpg

    These coins are no easy stuff, but it's very rewarding when you get to understand a bit of it.
     
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