Is This an Achaemenid satraps coins?

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  1. mani

    mani Junior Member

    I have posted this thread abut 7 years ago but did not clear.perhaps this time friends can help to me.
    when I bought this coin . the seller told me that it is an Achaemenid satraps coins . I searched the Achaemenid book catalogue an any mor references but can not find the coin like this . what is your idea?
     

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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    A very interesting mystery!

    Is it unpublished or is it a modern fantasy? I don't know. The coin looks convincing.

    The only two coins I see in archives which remotely resemble your coin are much smaller fractions and they are unpublished.

    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=272784

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    Triton XVIII, Lot: 769. Estimate $500.
    Sold for $300. This amount does not include the buyer’s fee.

    PERSIA, Achaemenid Empire. Uncertain. 4th century BC. AR Fraction (6.5mm, 0.20 g, 12h). Head right, wearing bashlyk / Eagle standing left; uncertain inscription to left; all in dotted square in incuse square. Unpublished. VF, a couple trace deposits, faint cleaning marks on reverse.


    https://sixbid.com/browse.html?auction=2858&category=58666&lot=2391590

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    ACHAEMENID EMPIRE. Uncertain (4th century BC). Fraction (1/32 Siglos?).
    Obv: Male head right, wearing bashlyk.
    Rev: Eagle standing left within pelleted linear border; all within incuse square.
    Cf. Triton XVIII, lot 769; Brindley -.
    Extremely rare
    Condition: Good very fine.
    Weight: 0.14 g.
    Diameter: 7 mm.
     
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  4. chrsmat71

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  5. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Well, my gut instinct on looking at the OP coin style was Persis, so Achaemenid satrapy sounds plausible to me. Unfortunately, I'm not nearly as familiar with Achaemenid coinage as I am with Parthian and Sasanian, so I don't know any specifics for this piece.
     
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  6. My gut says forgery.

    It appears to be the style, shape, and size of a siglos minted under the Achaemenid Dynasty. Although, i do not recognize the devices and could not find anything similar in any archive.

    The fabric reminds me of a a type that notorious fake sellers list brand used to sell on ebay. I don't recall their name, but they had/have a brick and mortar store in London. They were sent several letters by members or Forumancientcoins, including the owner, to stop selliny them. Might have finally worked.

    Edit: Saxbys_Coins
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have a mystery coin from that area and era; perhaps someone may know more about this one that I picked up. @Nicholas Molinari says that it is not an Acheloos / Man-Faced-Bull. Rather it is a forepart of a bull. Just curious if anyone knows anything about this Tetartemorion like @mani is trying to find?

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    Uncertain West Asia Minor Karia 5th C. BCE AR Tetartemorion 5mm 0.15g Female bust - Forepart Bull r Kayhan 968 except it is right-facing
     
  8. mani

    mani Junior Member

    Thanks a lot my friends.then i think it is forgery.
     
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