Is this a strikethough?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by onestepshort, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    strikethrough.jpg I am newer to morgan collecting, have never seen this little "wave" before. It is raised enough to see with the naked eye and not mirrored like the rest of the field which u can in the pic. I have one other, different date and mm, with a very similar but not identical error. Or at least I hope it is an error.
     
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  3. onestepshort

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  4. cpm9ball

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    That is one of the more common clashes you will see on Morgan dollars. It is from the cap "vee" where the cord draws it into Liberty's head. Other common ones to find are the diagonal line near the juncture of her neck and jaw. It is from the leading edge of the eagle's right wing (viewer's left), and if you look at that wing, you will probably see a vertical line extending from the wing toward the "n" of IGWT. That is Liberty's neckline.

    The clashes that are most sought after by the VAMpires are the letter transfers.

    Chris
     
  5. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    What year is this Morgan?
     
  6. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    1882
     
  7. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Here is a link to the 1882 CC VAMS. Check yours against these and see what you may have. I also noticed the first C in the CC mint mark is "filled" with a die chip or something. That may be something else to go on as an attribute. Hope this helps. The coin looks beautiful by the way.

    http://www.vamworld.com/1882-CC+VAMs
     
  8. cpm9ball

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    Would you mind posting photos showing the complete obverse and reverse?

    Chris
     
  9. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    ccob.jpg ccre.jpg
     
  10. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    cc.jpg Oh yeah what the heck is that in the left C. Thanks for the info!
     
  11. cpm9ball

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    Take a look at VAM-2B and check yours to see if there is a raised dot on the left side of the upper loop of the second "8".

    Chris
     
  12. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    Yes it looks just like the one in the VAM-2B example pic with the dot and the doubled 8
     
  13. cpm9ball

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    I've got the VAM-2C. Now that's a cool one!

    Chris
     
  14. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Glad you found it!

    I'm glad you found what you have. The only one I have is the 1887-P VAM 12-A. I am not hijacking you thread, just want to show you mine. The first pic is a similar clash to the first you posted.
     

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  15. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    Wow VAM's are a whole world I never knew about till now. I am guessing my coin is "proof like". How rare would u say having this type of VAM in a pl coin is? Is it worth getting slabbed?
     
  16. cpm9ball

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    I don't know if it would grade with that scratch across the cheek. It might get a Details grade.

    Chris
     
  17. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Funny you said that. When I first saw it I thought, dang that thing is mirror-like like a proof. I don't know much of anything about slabbing as I am pretty new to this great hobby and have yet to send a coin to a TPG. However, according to VAM world, there has only 1 been graded MS-64PL (PCGS), and according to "Coins" magazine, a MS-65PL lists for $1950! I am not good at grading either, but with those numbers, if I had the cash I would send it in.
     
  18. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Comparing to PCGS Photograde online, It looks very similar to the MS-64. If it graded MS-64PL it would be only the 2nd one graded. If it came back MS-65PL...$$$$$!!!
     
  19. cpm9ball

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    Here are some pics of my 1882-CC VAM-2C.

    This is what the "Cap Vee" looks like when it has clashed multiple times and has rotated about 7 degrees.

    cpm_1882CC_REV_Rotated_Dbl_Clash_1.jpg

    A counterclash of the lips.

    cpm_1882CC_OBV_Counterclashed_Lip.jpg

    This is the clashed "n". Note that it is doubled from more than one clash.

    cpm_1882CC_Dbld_Clashed_n.jpg

    More diagnostics.......

    cpm_1882CC_OBV_Cap_Die_Break.jpg cpm_1882CC_V2C_OBV_Die_Scratch.jpg

    Chris
     
  20. cpm9ball

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    Let's assume that it did grade (which would surprise me). At best it would probably get an MS62, but I don't think you would get the PL because it looks like there are some breaks in the fields. You can't have just part PL. It has to be the whole enchilada or nothing.

    Chris
     
  21. onestepshort

    onestepshort Member

    Well I've got 7 beauties that my dealer is sending in for me tomorrow, mine as well throw one more on the pile and find out! I'll let ya know how it goes!
     
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