Is this a real 1921-S Buffalo?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BigTee44, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I have my doubts as if this is a real 1921-S Buffalo, the front lacks much detail but the reverse seems to be very sharp.

    The listing says it weighs in at 4.9g, so 0.1 off.

    I wanted to bid but I'm very rookish when it comes to Buffs, just wanted to know if anyone thinks it's real. It ended up selling for roughly $140 or VG/F money....

    Looks like a counterfeit to me..... so am I wrong?

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I don't like it at all.
  4. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    see that line on the rim of the reverse? under magnification, does it look like a seam? someone could have done the "two headed nickel" deal to it, milled down an "s" to fit into a 1921 obverse..oops just realized you dont have it in hand..
  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Since you didn't buy, are you willing to post the link?
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Let's just say that had they wanted a "two headed nickel", milling would not have been necessary. ;)
  7. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

  8. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    looks like an overstrike the way that both sides have an "inner rim"
  9. athrose

    athrose Member

    does the obverse appear to have more wear than the reverse? Seems strange.
  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Great move NOT bidding!

    Congrats on saving your money and the associated heartburn.

    Look carefully and somewhere there should be a P mintmark (for Peking).
  11. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    The seller states in the description that it looks as if its the real thing. meaning its not.
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2013
  12. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't have even considered bidding on it because it's not located in the U.S. and too much of a risk on being lost in transit.
  13. coin dexter

    coin dexter Junior Member

    The image of this Buff is terrible to say the least. I couldn't even muster a guess with these images. Stay away would be my suggestion....DEX
  14. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    No way that is real.
  16. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    That little "ding" below the "s" will appear on other dates as well, which I determined after purchasing similar items from the J-man a number of years ago (when you could "legally" buy replicas on eBay). Very often die indicators will appear in successive years, as the same reverse die is used.
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I understand that there is no need for someone based in the US to consider sellers from abroad. But I don't see any issues with shipping, just make sure you have paypal, registered mail and/or an int'l tracking number.
  18. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

    Not really. I have a shield nickel with a very worn obverse but a reverse in great shape.
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Interesting it was advertised as 1921 , with no mention of the "S" on the back.
  20. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Every single U.S. coin sold by the seller is a fake. He puts a disclaimer (not allowed by eBay policy) into his auctions, such as this one for the buff:
    The Coin to me appears as though it could be the real thing. Even though I wouldn't be 100% assured.
    So the coin sells for $57, but apparently since the seller is G.B. based, this is OK....
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  21. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    good catch, Jim!
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