Is there a term for this? Effects from a cud die state...

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  1. drbrummer

    drbrummer Active Member

    1853 cud obv.JPG 1853 cud rev.JPG Many collectors who appreciate 19th century coinage will aggressively pursue coins with very late die states or retained/full cuds. I consider myself in this group of collectors and have a small hoard of dimes accumulated with various cuds.

    It seems consistent that when a die breaks to the point where a full cud appears, as in the coin above, that there is metal loss on the opposite side of the coin. This makes sense because the metal that forms the cud needs to come from somewhere.

    Do any numismatists out there know if there is a term used to describe this metal loss, as seen on the reverse of this coin around 4 o'clock? Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    Well, it's not really a loss of metal there, the planchet was just not struck up there because there was no pressure coming through from the obverse because a piece of the obverse was missing. Don't know if there is an official term for the effect. If describing it I would say something like "typical weakness opposite the cud."

    C'mon people! We have "Blakesley Effect" for the weakness on the other side of a planchet (horizontally) caused when the planchet goes through the upsetting mill! We need the "Xxxxx Effect" for the weakness on the opposite side of the coin (vertically) caused by the void in the opposing die. Who first explained it?
     
  4. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    "Henway Effect" it is!
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I'm not aware of an official term, although the effect is well known.

    I'm game for "henway effect."
     
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