Is it ok to melt US coins

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by John1397, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. John1397

    John1397 Member

    If you live in any country other tha USA can you melt US coins?
     
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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    As far as I know, if you own the coin, you can do anything that you want to it short of defrauding another with it. The one exception to this rule is melting pre 1982 copper cents.
     
  4. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    You can not melt us pennies or nickels anywhere, if the us found out u were melting there pennies outside there country probably nobody will notice, but airplanes only let you take less than 60 pennies, and are very strict about it.
     
  5. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Don't think that anybody could keep me from melting coins. Here in Germany you may destroy what you own, including coins or notes. Of course that implies that you are either the owner, or have the owner's permission. (In the second case it may be a good idea to have something in writing about this. ;) ) So if some of the money I want to destroy happens to be from a country where destroying money is illegal, I would (a) not destroy the money in public, or (b) have no plans to visit that country ...

    Christian
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Good Plan as the long arm of the law will catch up...and with home land security here in the U.S. not much gets by as big brother is watching all the time!
     
  7. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    As for the original question, "other than US" would cover about 200 countries. :rolleyes: But there sure are differences; in Canada for example some care is in order: "No person shall, except in accordance with a licence granted by the Minister, melt down, break up or use otherwise than as currency any coin that is current and legal tender in Canada." http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-52/page-2.html

    Christian
     
  8. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Source, please.
     
  9. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye


    I have hauled whole bags of Ukie coins back to the USA in my carryon - like 20lbs of change I accumulated over the many moons I lived there.
     
  10. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    If you really want to draw the long arm of the law and get a huge fine try bringing the "Kinder" chocolates from Europe to the USA - they can fine you up to $2500 for bringing those in because they have a toy in the centre of the candy - prohibited since 1938 in the USA. It is a real PITA because I have one kid that really likes those, but we have to eat them all in country. I stick to smuggling vodka and champagne only.
     
  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    There legal now! http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-chocolate-egg-approved-fda-article-1.1290804

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2013/03/toy-filled-chocolate-eggs-legal-in-us/

    https://www.google.com/search?q=kin...40,d.dmg&fp=db0390bbaea1223a&biw=1366&bih=681
     
  12. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Don't know about the legality but I wonder if it makes sense economically. The only coins that might make sense would be copper cents and nickles. If you have any acqusition costs involved it would cut into your profits. Of course you do know that it would be stupid to melt clad dimes, quarters and halves. The value of the copper involved would be much less than face value.
    If it's 90% silver, there are no laws against it.
     
  13. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    I toss US copper cents in with all the other scrap copper coins from all over the world into sacks and visit the smelters 3 times a year.
    I took 88 kilo`s last time in copper, brass and nickel and got £422 :D
     
  14. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    With Predator drones flying all over the world, and purportedly even the USA you'd be better to not publicise as much.
     
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  15. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    They don`t fly over here, they can`t afford the aviation gas :devil:
     
  16. alicechaos

    alicechaos Junior Member

    Law enforcement is probably more concerned about copper wire thieves.
     
  17. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Apparently not. Ferrero's product is still illegal in the US. Only a suspiciously similar product made by an American company seems to be OK with the American authorities. ;)

    Christian
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Folks US laws apply in the US they do not apply in other countries. It would only be illegal to melt US coins in another country if that country passed a law forbidding it, and in most cases they really don't care if you melt someone else's coins.

    The US law forbidding the melting of cents and non-silver five cent pieces places a restriction on the amount of cent and nickels you can carry out of the country, it's $5 face.
     
  19. coinhound

    coinhound Member

    I thought you could melt coins as long as you didn't sepperate the individual alloys.
     
  20. harleyjokers

    harleyjokers New Member

    is it possible to melt copper pennies into any form other than a penny and sell it as scrap copper. i know it's not legal. how would the gov't know.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    How do they know if you cheat on your taxes ? Yet people get caught all the time. How do the police know if you broke any law ? People get caught all the time for that too.

    That said, people also get away with it and don't get caught. But you never know when you're going to be one of the ones that does.
     
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