Or is this sellers coins all toned exactly the same? http://shop.ebay.com/cwbyup1051/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=
Looks too consistent to be natural toning to me. But I don't like toning. So I'm probably the wrong one to ask.
Me neither the ones this guys selling looks like they were hit with a torch or something looks burned around the rim.
I like toning and wished I knew more. However the toning here is to obvious on all his coins to be NT.
I remember a few years back someone was selling straight clipped quarters. The problem was that he had many of them. What are the chances of that unless your making them at home. Later turned out he bought them from someone that was making them.
Gaseous diffusion of toning chemicals from surrounding cardboard or what ever doesn't produce this precise pattern. A liquid solution of chemicals can. But that said, there is no comment implying NT or AT, 7 day return, if a person wants it, it is no different from an Obama dollar or colorized silver eagle. P.T. Barnum said it best. Jim
I know it's a little surprising can't be knowledgable collectors just somebody who thinks they're purdy. :goofer:
I had another thought on this as I have no knowledge on this at all so humor me. Isn't what he's doing to the coins actually just damaging them? If he's using chemicals to AT them wouldn't the chemicals alter the surface as well and not just adding color?
The toning is simply a result of the chemical reaction between the surface of the coin and the chemical applied to the surface of the coin. The end product is the same silver sulfide that occurs naturally. However, NT coins obtain their toning by being in contact with a toning source (usually something with sulfur content) and the reaction takes place via air transfer. Once the coin is removed from the toning source and stored properly, the oxidation process slows to a rate that makes further toning undetectable. When a coin is subjected to a chemical on it's surface, the oxidation will continue to occur unless the chemical has been completely removed from the surface of the coin. What these people think is pretty, might not look the same next year. Just in case anyone doubts this can happen, please take a look at the following photographs. The first is the sellers photo which is predominantly pink with blue highlights. Even though the photo is juiced, the coin was predominantly pink. The second photo is what the coin looks like now. The pink which is first in the progression is all but gone. I really hope people are not paying this guy big premiums for his junk silver.
Wouldn't it make more sense to put the chemicals on the area of an alblum that holds the rim to accelerate to toning rather than directly on the coin. I mean, come on at least make it look halfway NT.
I'm afraid I can't speak intelligently on the methods of artificially toning a coin. Apparently this is a taboo subject that nobody talks about. The doctors won't talk because they want as few competitors as possible and the others won't talk because they don't want to create new doctors. A dilemma to be sure.
Grbose, you are correct. Not only that but if you look around, there are several sellers who are selling coins of all denominations that look exactly like that. They're all exactly the same, front and back, which is theoretically not possible. All AT crap. But people bid all that junk silver up like crazy. People are so easily fooled these days that it's almost sad to see them throw their money away. The only way for them to recoup their money someday would be to sell to another collector that refused to take the time to educate themselves a little bit and trick them. There's going to be a lot of disappointed people someday when it comes to all that non-sense.
