Iran 1945 (err 1948...err 1947) Gold Pahlavi

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by LostDutchman, Sep 3, 2011.

  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I came across this piece recently. This is neat because the coin is in high relief. It's 90% gold and the same content as a sovereign.

    I wanted to share a coin people may not be familiar with.

    Enjoy!

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  3. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    Very nice coin, but I think it's a 1948 (1326) :)
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    This is what I use to date them in Arabic. I had gotten 1324 as my best guess. But looking at it it could definitely be a stylized 6.

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  5. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    It's a Persian 6 :)
     
  6. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

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    Looks like Persian Numerals to me....



    EDIT: Dang 1966, you beat me to it lolol
     
  7. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    well that explains it!

    Thanks guys!
     
  8. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    More confusion. Numismaster shows 1326 translating to 1947.
     
  9. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    I was going by Yeoman, who says it's 1948 in the Iran/Persia section of Current Coins of the World. But then in his introduction, he says the AD year can be easily obtained simply by adding 621 to the SH year. So, according to that explanation, it would be 1947.

    So now I'm confused, too.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    HA!! Confusing thread of the day award winner here!
     
  11. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    I got the same thing..... Perhaps it's a 1947......
     
  12. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    Well I just read that it depends on the time of year, they do not have the New Years the same time as we do. Like in January it may be 1947 Gregorian, but in October it may be 1948 Gregorian.

    "The Iranian year usually begins within a day of 21 March of the Gregorian calendar. To find the corresponding year of the Gregorian calendar, add 621 or 622 (depending on the time of the year) to a Solar Hejri year."
     
  13. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Well, it's a rough estimate. 1947 or '48 could both be correct, since I don't believe the SH year begins on January 1st and ends on December 31st, like the Gregorian calendar. It just begins partway through the year.
     
  14. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    This might solve the mystery. Apparently there was some calendar revision in 1954 in Iran in which the "simply add 621" rule began to apply.
     
  15. mani

    mani Junior Member

    adding 621 to the SH year woud be true. but the SH year begins on 21 March ( when the sun enters in north hemisphere)
     
  16. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    I got the impression that the Western-style year was adopted after the Shah came to power, but perhaps the old calendar was readopted after the Iranian Revolution?
     
  17. mani

    mani Junior Member

    Since pahlavi ( about 1922) until now the iranian use the sh calendar - but befor the pahlavi used the AH calendar
     
  18. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Who cares about the date, --how about that clashed die on the reverse?? Remarkably strong impression of the obverse legend. Also, the portrait looks kind of mushy. Perhaps from the high-relief requiring more strike than the press was able to put out?? Or is this actually a smaller coin than the standard Sovereign, perhaps a half-Pahlavi?
     
  19. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    And a cool die clash on that, rather unusual for a gold coin. I want to collect those and the newer Azadi coinages sometime.
     
  20. mani

    mani Junior Member

    for buying the Azadi gold coin. should be careful. because there are a lot of fakes azadi coins
     
  21. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Wow! Massive die clash - can also see most of obverse's head outline on reverse
     
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