Well, I'm not sure what to make of this but they sure want a lot of money for it-what do you guys think about it (I just saw it and was curious-I'm not going to bid on an uncertified $100K coin someone bought from a homeless guy for $75 ): http://cgi.ebay.com/1943-copper-str...1QQihZ018QQcategoryZ39457QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it's a fake. the letter from the experts is convincing to me and even if it isn't to anyone else there are other problems. If the coin was really struck twice or three times (as the obverse would suggest) then the reverse would show the obvious tripled detail as well. Also the "underdate" (the 3 that is clearly visible) is too close to the rim, there is no way that a legitimate 1943 die would produce that particular image. Finally, the guy claims to have joined PCGS and NGC, but if he really thought that there was a chance this coin is real, why didn't he send it to one of them? He has to know it would be worth way more slabbed than unslabbed. it's just way to fishy!
Personally, I won't be bidding on any $100K coins. LOL I agree, though. It is "interesting", but definately an auction that should be avoided.
Well, yeah-me neither. I don't think I could take out a $100K loan on a coin with my $10/hr. student job and no collateral anyway LOL.
Just so ya'll know---it is totaly possible <sp?> to have a coin with dates from 2 or more years....I think Mike Byers had one that had a space of 13+ years...... BUT on this coin I would agree that its fake---if it was double stuck I would think the back would also show signs of being struck twice. Speedy
If nothing else the stories he posted sounded interesting. I like the part about the homeless guy carrying that coin around with him. Then he adds all the stories taht people send him. Nice touch for a scam.
Somebody did this, most likely: Placed a real 1943 steel cent face-down on a piece of leather, and whacked it a few times with a wooden mallet. The result was a reverse impression of the obverse in the leather. Then he took a 1944 cent, placed it in the indentation left by the 1943 cent, and whacked it a few times with the mallet. The result is what you see. A smarter con artist would have used a 1942 cent.
To get the effect on both sides, you place a coin in between two pieces of leather, and whack it with a mallet. Then you replace it with the coin your trying to alter, put it between the impressions and whack it. You can also just shift the one coin relative to its impressions, to make it seem double stuck.
A bigger sucker than any who have looked at it so far! I really don't know whether to respond or , or even !
Jackeen, you are on the right track but it won't work with leather. Yes the leather will take on the impression of the coin but it is nowhere near hard enough to transfer the impression back to the second coin. A piece of soft brass on the other hand should do the trick nicely