INS Authentication

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  1. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Among the many coins left by my father was a 1987 envelope from the International Numismatic Society, which has apparently gone out of business. Inside were four sealed polariods, along with the four Italian coins. I researched the coins and they appear to be worth a few hundred dollars each, but I'm surprised he paid to have these authenticated for such a low value. He has many other coins worth four figures each that were not sent in. Perhaps I'm missing something ? Perhaps they are a high grade ? Here is an example of one...
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    This is an amazing 1928 Italy 20 lire coin. I used to have the fantasy version, but gave it away in a secret santa gift here awhile ago. Yours appears to be the real coin worth good money. My 2019 World coins catalog says it's worth XF- $400-500 MS60-$650 AND MS63-$1,350. I am guessing your coin fits in the XF 40-45 range. I would get it authenticated and get it slabbed by NGC or PCGS. What ever you do DO NOT CLEAN IT. Leave it as is. Wait for more grade opinions...
     
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  5. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    Nice one! Look forward to seeing the other coins you found from your father
     
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  6. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Back in the day INS was reputable.
     
  7. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

  8. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Appreciate the feedback - thanks !
     
  9. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    NGC should be your no one choice for world coins.
     
  10. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    #1 choice ?
     
  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Yes, sorry... number 1 choice :)
     
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  12. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    No problem I like both.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That is a rare holder. Those early INS Photos and certificate are almost never seen

    Do you have other INS photos and do you have the certificates that go with them?
     
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  14. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Yes, three others certificates and the coins as well.
     
  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Listen to @Conder101 he knows what he says. To this day I can't recollect another INS slab,. I'd bet each has a photo marker that identity's the coin.
     
  16. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    I have one PhotoCert and three different INS PhotoSlabs... I need to dig up and post photos
     
  17. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    I’m not sure I have certificates. Only the slabbed photos and the matching coins. I have the original registered mail envelope that INS sent to my father, so I don’t believe anything is missing. Should there be separate certificates as well ?
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    These are the two that I have, from the book.
    INS 1 Photos and certificate
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    INS1 certificate.JPG
    INS 2 Photos and certificate
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    INS2 certificate.JPG
     
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  19. Ben88

    Ben88 Active Member

    Thank you, Condor101. The envelope from INS that contained the coins and slabs is postmarked 10/11/87, but I did not find any Grading analysis sheets. Just the sealed polaroids and the matching coins. In fact, the verbiage on the polariod does not mention the grade, only that the coins are concluded to be genuine and have not been fraudulently altered.
    However, the envelope also contained a blank application for future use, and I can see where there is an extra charge for grading. So my guess is my dad just wanted an authentication and did not pay for additional grading.
     
  20. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    1988 PhotoSlab (DC):
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    1992 PhotoSlab (Philadelphia, PA):
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    1997 PhotoSlab (Ashton, PA):
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  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Congratulations, that is only the second INS slab I have ever seen from when they were in Aston, PA. The other one has serial number 70753-01 So they made at least 75 of them.
     
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