Inherited - Oklahoma Merchant Tokens

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  1. Sommer Dey

    Sommer Dey New Member

    Hello to all,

    I hope this posts finds everyone well. It was suggested that I start a new thread to ask my questions related to a few tokens I'd inherited awhile back. I never thought to determine their value because I don't plan to sell, just cherish. Any help provided on how I go about getting them authenticated, would be greatly appreciated. If you have an expert in mind, that would also help too.

    Respectfully,
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  3. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'd call these guys, Sommer (btw, welcome aboard :))...

    Contact the Research Center
    Oklahoma Historical Society
    Research Center
    800 Nazih Zuhdi Drive
    Oklahoma City, OK 73105
    405-522-5225

    Open Tuesday–Saturday 10 am to 4:45 pm
    Closed Sundays, Mondays, and all state holidays.

    There is no charge to visit the Research Center.
     
  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Those look like authentic tokens to me. Try to research the names and maybe you'll come up with something.
     
  5. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    Tokens are not commonly counterfeited yet.

    If these were inherited from a source that had them for more than a few years they are unlikely to be counterfeit.

    These types of tokens usually start at $1.50 and go up to $100 with most in the three or four dollar range. Oklahoma is a little better state so figure common ones at a dollar or two more.
     
  6. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Bien Hoa AB $5 FAKE.jpg
    Fake. None in this style reported, obvious seam all around rim, casting sprue freshly filed off, metal doesn't feel or look right, surface is pitted. Came from Vietnam. I have more examples of photos I took off of eBay but this is one I bought.
     
  7. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    It's a military token from the Viet war, a whole different area of collectable. Those are even made over there, still. They are also casting silver dollars, faking MPC notes etc from the war era because they have a whole lot of gullible tourists buying this garbage.
     
  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Well...I thought it was related enough being exonumia but you're right. There's an active tourist industry in Vietnam and people will want "war souvenirs" I suppose. My point is that fake tokens are being churned out and have been for a long time.
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    @cwtokenman frequent deese parts anymore?

    Oh.......and welcome to the forum Sommer. :)
     
  10. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    The ones I've seen are more in the nature of fantasies made by LA Stamp. Of course there are counterfeits everywhere and it's perfectly legal with one of our most favored nations trading partners. China even burned the mint with millions and millions of dollars of waffled counterfeit half dollars that, incredibly, were claimed to come from scrap cars. I guess you don't need to be that smart to be a big shot at the mint.

    I haven't seen many suspicious merchant tokens.
     
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  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Me neither. Most come from one particular seller but they've been pumping them out and they're starting to make the rounds.

    As far as the original tokens, I like the triangle the best and imagine that one would get the highest price because of the shape.
     
  12. jester3681

    jester3681 Exonumia Enthusiast

    Welcome Sommer! These are all three "Good For" tokens, and are likely from the early 20th century. Value on most Good Fors is soft unless the tokens are particularly rare - but these are neat pieces of history.

    TokenCatalog.com is one of the best sources of info for local exonumia - I found the following info there for you:

    The top one is a J.M. Henkel Billiards token, counterstamped with the WW and 25 - apparently Henkel sold his tokens to Woody Woods who reused them. Henkel was listed as a billiard hall operator from 1918-44. Listed in the OK Exonumia Guide, p.498. One sold on 9/14 for $20.

    The second is listed in the OK Exo Guide, p.229. Two have sold, 11/12 for $11, 5/14 for $14.

    Are there any markings on the other side of the third? Without any specific issuer info, it is nearly impossible to track down info.

    Hope this helps!
     
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  14. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member

    There may be some books on the subject that may help.

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    cladking Coin Collector

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