Info on gold first spouse coins..

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Danr, Apr 2, 2007.

  1. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    ..Anyone know relaese date, price, or anything?
     
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  3. n_sandler4

    n_sandler4 Paul

    The US Mint Website gives a date of June for the first proof gold spouse coin....
     
  4. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    Denomination of First Spouse coins

    Does anyone know why the First Spouse 1/2 oz. gold coins will have a $10 face value? The 1/2 oz. American Gold Eagles have a face value of $25. The $10 face Gold Eagle is only 1/4 oz. :confused:
     
  5. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    That's because the First Ladies bullion issue are medal-coins,like the silver & gold Eagles are.

    Aidan.
     
  6. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper


    The 1/2 oz Gold Commems are always $10 coins...in is written in the legislative articles that once signed make it into a law.

    Hope that helps!

    RickieB
     
  7. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    There you go with "medal-coins" again... but anyway you're using somewhat flawed logic... if these are the same type of coin as the gold eagles it would not explain why their denominations are different than the gold eagles.

    These are technically commemoratives, and as such are under the standing regulation that 1/2 oz gold commemoratives are required to carry a denomination of $10.

    Bullion issues, such the as the gold, silver, and platinum eagles, and now the gold buffaloes, are covered by a different regulation than commemoratives, hence the differences in denominations.
     
  8. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    I don't really see what difference face value makes anyway. Who cares. They could put 1 cent face value and people are still going to look at the gold content first. Gold is never going to drop into the 10-25 dollar range again anyway. I just think the face value in the ranges we've seen so far are irrelevant at best.
     
  9. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I agree that it doesn't make much difference to the value of the coin, but someone must think it's important because the face values are different from their historical counterparts (e.g. $50 for a one-ounce coin vs. $20 historically) and the fact that platinum bullion coins have a face value twice that of their gold counterparts.
     
  10. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    thanks again, you are appreciated around here.:)
     
  11. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    Any word about subscriptions to the First Spouse proof sets?
     
  12. JBK

    JBK Coin Collector

    I don't pretend to recall all the logic behind it, but adding a face value (legal tender status) was key to the successful bullion series (SE/GE). The mont did make gold one ounce medals, and they were a flop. It was toughgoing to get a denomination put on the bullion coins, but it was apparently important for some reason.
     
  13. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Well on the plus side, even if they find a mountain in Antarctica made of solid gold and the price of gold plummets, your American gold eagle is still worth at least the face value.

    Don't think that's the real reason though... gold has always been valuable, and always will be, unless a massive supply suddenly turns up. I think it's the psychological aspect mostly... making it a legal tender coin confers as sense of safety and legitimacy to it that make people more willing to buy one than they would say, a gold bar containing the same amount of gold. Plus it adds numismatic value to it, so people other than just gold investers find it a desirable purchase. Using the St. Gaudens double eagle obverse was an especially smart move; both collectors and non-collectors alike were attracted to the design.
     
  14. sonjudawg

    sonjudawg Junior Member

    So which spouse coin would be better to get, the four piece set or individuals? Wil the subscriptions be better for one or the other?
     
  15. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Depends entirely on your personal preferences and budget. The 4 piece set I imagine will be no better or worse to get than 1 each of the 4 individual ones. If you want and can afford all 4, may as well get the set for convenience's sake. If you can only afford, or only want, some of the individual ones, may as well go that route.

    I kind of like the design for Jefferson's Liberty, and may go for that, if budget permits. Getting all 4 I know will be beyond my budget.
     
  16. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    I got that impression from looking at artists renderings of them. I especially like the ones for presidents who didn't have wives which are going to be replicas of obsolete US coins, e.g. a capped bust obverse.

    I read somewhere that the mintages of the presidential spouse coins will be on the order of 10,000. Is that accurate?
     
  17. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    I think that's the minimum; they may mint more if demand calls for it. Likely these will be selling for about $400 each or so, so that may limit sales to a degree but should sell at least as well or better than the gold buffaloes. I honestly was hoping they would have made these 1/4 oz. to make it easier to collect a few, but as it is I'll just pick and choose maybe one a year or so.
     
  18. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    Does that mean they won't be a limited issue?
     
  19. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    The designs are better than I expected. Very nice. Have they announced a price yet?
     
  20. CentDime

    CentDime Coin Hoarder

    "I read somewhere that the mintages of the presidential spouse coins will be on the order of 10,000. Is that accurate?"

    I think it is more like 20,000 as they will sell in sets and individually. So 10,000 of each for 20,000.
     
  21. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    Has there ever been a US Mint subscription program with limited production? What would the mint do if they sold enough subscriptions to take up the entire production?
     
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