Indian/Lincoln 1909 Brockage Error or Post Mint Damage?

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Is this mint error, or post mint damage?

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  1. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Hi, I recently came across this coin and have been a little puzzled... Is this a real brockage error, or post mint damage? Thanks in advance for your opinions
     

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Post mint damage. Squeeze job.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Damaged.
    Also known as a Vise or Sandwiched job
    Whenever you see an image incused into the field and reversed, it's purposely made :yack:
     
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  5. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    I'm curious on how I would tell the difference between a squeeze job and real brockage... I get confused as to why the "liberty" isn't more smashed in the 2nd photo
     
  6. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Poor 1909 lincoln. I assumed it was purposely made... So in the case of brockage it would not be incuse?
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

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  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Brockages are incused, but it's a totally different occurrence. Not your Cent. Believe me, after 30 years of collecting error coins I can tell the difference.
    I want to share this webpage with you - http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-full/
     
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  9. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    This is exactly what I needed to read - googling images of brockage with indians on lincolns was to no avail , thank you paddyman98!
     
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  10. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    One thing to keep in mind is that real brockages won't be dated 12 years apart, from two different issues.
     
  11. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Thats what I was thinking too, but I got confused because it IS 1909 lincoln (1st year) and well toned (maybe recolored?)
     
  12. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Here is a real brokage:
    1999lincolnERROR-BrStrk-PartBroc.jpg 1999lincolnERROR-BrStrk-PartBrocREV.jpg 1999errorSIDE3.jpg 1999errorSIDE2.jpg 1999BroadStruckClose.jpg
     
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  13. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    A newbie friend of mine was really pumped when he found this recently in a bag of large cents and called me over...

    20161118_112030~2.jpg 20161118_112040~2.jpg
     
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  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    In the OP that coin's orange color suggests cleaning.
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Also it isn't possible to have a full brockage on BOTH sides of the coin.
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Condor beat me to it.
     
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