Important addition!!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Ardatirion, Apr 18, 2009.

  1. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    This is probably the coolest thing I've ever owned...

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    Forger’s reverse die of sestertius
    mid 2nd century AD – AE or PB? 53.5g, 35x6mm
    four-tiered pyre topped by facing quadriga
    CONSECRATIO, SC in retrograde

    type of RIC 315, 1266 (Antoninus Pius); 333, 1511 (Lucius Verus); 441, 662 (Marcus Aurelius)

    ex Dmitry Markov New York Sale XI, unsold

    When a counterfeiter prepared his dies, he could either engrave them himself, in a style easily be distinguishable from official mint issues, or he could use a genuine, mint issued host coin. He would then impress this design into a piece of bronze and affix it to the iron die-shaft. This object likely represents a counterfeiter’s first attempt, a practice strike in lead.
     
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

  4. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Uh - yeah. Stay off the Gorilla Coffee
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Are you saying that is an ancient forgery die?


    Ruben
     
  7. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Read the bottom paragraph, its a part of the process. Close enough to be called a die.
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    fine - is it ancient :) :desk:
     
  9. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    As far as any of the people I've talked to can tell.
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    OK - so now I understand why your excited. Congratulations!
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That's really cool!!!
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Now THAT is cool! Ancient counterfeit coins are plentiful but how often do you find an ancient counterfeit die?

    Do you know if it is a contemporary countefeit or if it was made later?
     
  13. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    It would be roughly contemporary. Definitely within 50 or so years of the original issue.

    I forgot to mention, in the census of ancient dies done my Cornelius Vermeule, only one sestertius die was noted.
     
  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    now you guys are confusing me. Your throwing modifiers around improperly. Is the die ancient or NOT! Not does it counterfeit and ancient coin. Is the die a historical artifact?

    Ruben
     
  15. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Note my words carefully... its a counterfeiter's die, meaning it was used by a counterfeiter. Still ancient.
     
  16. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    Wow, that is really neat. I remember you telling me about it but I never seen the pics. Nice.




    stainless
     
  17. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    That is what I would and will call a bloody amazing find :bow: :bow: I have seen a few modernish ones but never ever something like that :D
     
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