Illyria, Apollonia, AR Drachm. ca 229-30 BC,

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  1. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

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    Illyria, Apollonia, AR Drachm. ca 229-30 BC, Agias (Moneyer), Epikadou (Magistrate), 3.3g, 18mm

    OBV: AΓIAΣ, Cow standing left suckling calf.

    REV: AΠOΛ EΠI KA ΔOY, Legend around double stellate pattern. A control mark outside of first circle border.

    REF: BMC 15-16 (pending)

    I believe the impression from another coin on the obverse is not a double strike, but maybe it was from other coins fused together in a clump. Not 100% sure on that. I believe I have the details right for the coin. There are a few issues though. For one, I don't believe I have the double stellate pattern lined up right. If anyone knows, I'd appreciate it. And also, the BMC 15-16 could very well be right for this coin except that mine has some type of control mark so I doubt the reference ID is right on. I'd appreciate some help with this coin.

    This was another coin that was sitting in my desk only because this was not the right coin I was supposed to get from a dealer, he sent the wrong one. I was rather annoyed about it since this one is of lower grade and there it set in my desk for a long time. No more. It's being taken care of now.
     
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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I'm not entirely sure Gil, but my seller photos have it (double stellate pattern) arranged as follows:

    silver drachm cow and calf.jpg
     
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  4. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I own one as a novelty and know very little about this series. The image here is what the seller posted:
    Illyria.jpg
     
  6. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I remember that coin, Bing. It was similar to the one I was supposed to receive.
     
  7. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Got one and now have it I'Ded right on my forvm gallery thanks to the link posted.

    Thanks, Gil

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    Apollonia, Illyria, Greece, (200 - 80 B.C.)
    AR Drachm
    O: APIΣTΩN (moneyer), cow left, head turned, suckling calf right.
    R: double stellate pattern within double linear square with sides curved inward.
    3.2g
    17.5mm
     
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  9. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I believe yours is APIΣTΩN (Ariston moneyer).

    Ainea (Magistrate), AΠOΛ AI NE A
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I see a doublestrike on the reverse since the frame lines do not align properly making it seem possible that the first strike was a partial brockage which the strikers corrected by overstriking. It could be die damage from a severe clash but that does not explain the double reverse details.
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    still more coin for GG! awesome sir!

    that one is on my list, pretty high. i've just got to find the right one when i've got the money to blow.
     
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  12. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Awesome new coin Gil, got to love the cow and calf..:)
     
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  13. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    I picked one of these up a while back, not knowing a lot about them but thinking it looked cool. Still one of my favorite Greek coins.

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    Illyria, Apollonia. Ca. 250-200 B.C. AR drachm (15.8 mm, 3.34 g, 5 h). Timen and Damophontos, magistrates. TIMHN, Cow standing right with suckling calf; ΓAK monogram below / AΠOΛ ΔAMOΦΩNTOΣ, Double stellate pattern. Ceka 115; BMC 14; Mionnet 19.

    Image copyright Agora Auctions http://AgoraAuctions.com
     
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  14. non_cents

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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Atta-boy, Gil-galad => another sweet addition, my friend!!

    ... yah, I only have my two usual suspects to toss into your thread ...


    cow suckling.jpg cow suckling b.jpg

    ... and the cool brockage error ...

    Illyria Dyrrhachion Brockage Error.jpg

    :rolleyes:
     
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