Identification of possibly Henry II penny

Hi, thank you for approving my application. I am a RVS volunteer and David, (one of the elderly gentlemen I visit )recently showed me his war medals and family antiquities. He handed me a coin he'd dug up a decade ago in his back garden and indicated he wanted to bequeath/donate it to the local museum on his passing ( he has a terminal disease), but wanted to know what the coin was. I told him I'd do my best and see if I could find it. After a few hours searching, I'm none the wiser - and so joined Cointalk!

Whilst one side is similar to the Henry 11 penny, I've found nothing similar to the other side of the coin, which is in very good condition (images attached).

Can anyone in here help me identify the coin for David?

Thanks in anticipation!

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Welcome to Coin Talk. There are others more knowledgable on the identification of early English coinage so I'll wait for them to contribute.

 

@Roger Houston

What is the size of your coin?

 

Ah - I didn’t measure it and it’s with David - it’s approximately an inch - i didn’t think to measure it I’m sorry. I’ll ask David to Measure it on Monday when i next soeak with him

 

Rather distinctive coin. I'll report your post and ask for it to be moved to World Coins where it will get more exposure.

 

Thank you - This is all new to me - I appreciate any help !

 

Are those shamrocks in the quadrants of the cross?

 

Yes ! I think they are - 4 leaves on a stalk - I thought they were crosses but when I enlarge the image they do look like shamrocks

 

Can't help, but will watch this thread with Interest.
BTW! Bless you for your volunteer work~

Maybe @daveydempsey can help!

 

I found something very similar to your friend's piece on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/499898-Fra...600800?hash=item4b76700820:g:U2gAAOSw6qxedYHV

 

If only there was a nice online datebase for Jetons in the vein Numista.

 

Great detective work! I’ll post it on world coin thread as a few members have suggested but if the variance of dies is correct for this coinage, given the similarity of the side with the cross, unless something else is suggested , I’ll tell David it’s most likely to be of 15th century French jeton origin - many thanks for your energies and input !

 

This appears to be the same, but the seller doesn't really give much description: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tournai-jeton-de-compte-en-bronze-s-d-XVIe-2-/230849775893

 

Here's an interesting article on Nuremberg jettons, as they are known.http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/nuremberg-jetons.html

 

Not sure if my reply was correctly entered. I intended to say that this is a 15th century brass jetton from Tournai, then France, now Belgium. Tournai provided the majority of jettons used in England in the 15th century and it was only after the town was captured by Maximilian I that its jetton trade was taken over by Nuremberg.