One is made probably of silver or plated and looks like Crusaders. The other is a copper coin and I can read: 1/4 STVB.. 17.. on the reverse there is a new-to-me monogram, Thank you
I am going to go out on a limb and say that the first coin is a 1/4 stuber from one of the German states
The first coin is indeed a 1/4 kreuzer C#3 from the German county Wied-Runkel. The crowned monogram GW doesn't stand for the ruler (Johann Ludwig Adolf 1706-1762) but for the countries' name: Grafschaft Wied (= County of Wied) This coin was issued 1751-1758.
The 1/4 Stuber looks like it comes from Julich-Berg.The silver coin looks like it comes from one of the Crusader states in the Middle East,most likely the Kingdom of Jerusalem,which was ruled by the Lusignan Dynasty (who ruled Cyprus from 1192 until 1489) from 1269 to 1291. Aidan.
The second coin I think can be narrowed down to the Crusader Kingdom of Cyprus between 1283 and 1369 AD, during the reigns of Henry II, Hugh IV, and Pierre I. Below are examples from all three, they are fairly close.
