ID this ancient.

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  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Found this behind my dresser while cleaning my room.
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  3. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Constantius II from Antioch (SMANA in ex.) minted between 337-347 AD. RIC 49.
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Too fast for me Batman

    Detecto: That's a very nice looking coin.:thumb:
     
  5. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    RIC 49 and Constantius II is not matching up in wildwinds.
     
  6. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

  7. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    The numbering restarts with each mint. RIC 49 from Alexandria ≠ RIC 49 from Antioch. Also, be aware that Constantius II appears in both RIC VII and VIII.
     
  8. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Here is the photo from wildwinds for RIC VIII 49 from antioch.
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    The neck does not match.
     
  9. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I think it is RIC VIII Antioch 56

    Constantius II AE3.

    OBV: CONSTAN-TIVS AVG, Pearl diademed head right.

    REV: GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers holding spears and shields with one standard between them, SMAN delta in ex.

    REF: RIC VIII Antioch 56
     
  10. GreatWalrus

    GreatWalrus WHEREZ MAH BUKKIT

    You must have quite an ancient house.
     
  11. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I retook the photo and used some post processing to bring out more detail. My point and shoot doesn't fare well with smaller coins.
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    BTW, the "In ex" letters Are SMAN?
     
  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm? ... hey, I've never claimed to be an expert, but doesn't this kinda look like Mosquito-Boy?

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  13. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    SMAN delta. It could be an "A", but it looks like a poorly engraved or preserved delta to me.
     
  14. Dionysos

    Dionysos Well-Known Member

    Yup, you're right, naked bust that is :thumb:

    On the 1st pic I saw SMANA... but not that sure now with the second pic :scratch:
     
  15. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    This is making me pull my hair out. None of the necks match.
     
  16. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Here is another photo with a different officina (workshop) of the same RIC catalog ID.

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    One thing you might want to realize is that all ancient coins were handmade and engraved. That being said, most coins look all look slightly different because the dies were engraved by various workshops from different people.

    Just a few workshops from this mint, during this time are.

    Delta
    Gamma
    Theta
    AI
    BI
    H

    So, that's just 6 die variations alone (could be lots more). So, the neck having a slightly different shape is hardly unusual. I believe it's still the same attribution.
     
  17. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    That coin is "BI", btw.
     
  18. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the education. I guess with collecting US coins, I didn't realize the major differences there were in the coining process. Most us coin designs pretty much turn out the same, with minute variations that can be hard to spot.

    I think the issue with this particular coin is that the reverse (two soldiers standing) was used on quite a few coins.

    your pic shows SMANBI mine is SMANA or SMANΔ
     
  19. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Yes, I'm aware. Was using that as an example of die variations.

    Trust me. Your attribution is;

    Constantius II AE3.

    OBV: CONSTAN-TIVS AVG, Pearl diademed head right.

    REV: GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS, two soldiers holding spears and shields with one standard between them, SMAN delta in ex.

    REF: RIC VIII Antioch 56
     
  20. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Thanks.

    BTW, what's an affordable ancient coin made from silver?
     
  21. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Around $20-$30. You can find them by looking around. Mostly Roman Imperial Denarii or Antonini.
     
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