I would love an opinion on this..

Is this a known error of any kind? Still reading and trying to learn but could use some help on this one. I read about double die so I am guessing this is not one but not sure what to call it or if it is even worth keeping. It is a Massachusetts State Quarter.

 

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Your coin appears to show either mechanical doubling or die deterioration doubling (I can't quite tell from the pictures), but it is not a doubled die. You can read more about these forms of doubling here: http://www.errorvariety.com/OFD/index.html

 

so not worth keeping?

 

What is worth keeping is all up to you. If you are looking to only keep things that are worth a bit of money, then no, this one is probably not worth keeping (in my opinion).

 

I'd keep it as it is a dramatic case of MD , and a good teaching and learning tool . Plus I like clashes and any form of doubling that you can see without a loupe .

 

It would be a great coin to keep for future reference of this type of doubling.

 

The Massachusetts quarters are prone for MD . some of them are so bad the words on the coins are almost unreadable from the die wear on both sides of the letters.

 

All the doubling on this coin is due to die deterioration. That's the "fancy shmancy" term for having been struck by a worn die. You'll see that doubling effect. You can also see what we call the "orange peel" effect on the surface of the fields (the flat background areas on a coin).

The "orange peel" effect is a diagnostic used to determine that a coin has been struck by a very worn die. You can see the ripply look around the area of the rifle. That's orange peel.

 

I guess what confuses me is the older coins like the wheat penny and such, they seem to be worth money when a simple error is found but the somewhat newer money isn't. I saw on a site where this specialist said a state quarter that says In God We rust is worth like $150... those don't even get $2 most of the time... so I guess that is why my confusion is happening so often. I have coins I am collecting but I am selling coins for my Mom & Dad that are worth money. So I don't understand why a certain mistake on one coin is worth something but on a different coin it isn't worth money.

 

lol, trying to help my parents have turned into a full time job and a new hobby

 

age plays a big part in the price of a coin. our newer coins may be worth more after about 50 years from now. LOL

 

Then why isn't this one worth anything... If my calculations are right this one would be about 70 years old.


Also found this one it's a Kansas State Quarter (newer obviously) but very distinct picture is stamped over top of Washington's bust.

 

Isn't it obvious? Fake. It has the SW pointing tail 3 which is proven (right here on CT) to not exist and never have been minted by the real US gubbamint. Not even remotely possible.

Not even money. Moot point.

 

That other one looks struck thru.

 

The 1943 looks like possible die deterioration, which is a common form of doubling and generally not worth a premium. The thing about errors is that the common ones don't cost very much, and die deterioration is very common.

The quarter looks like a struck through error and could command a couple of dollars on ebay.

 

Fake doesn't make sense with something my dad would save from something he got over 50 years ago, he is the most honest person I know in my life. Can I find out what you are talking about on here? Or find out somewhere else? That is pretty substantial info I would want to know. God I hope you are wrong

 

It's not really a fake...the "appearance" the member is referring to could be due to a large number of circumstances other than a counterfeit coin, such as die stage, circulation wear, or a bunch of other factors. The claim that the particular coin is fake shouldn't be taken too seriously.

 

Thank you, I was freaking out trying to google what a fake coin looks like and it said it would look like half of an 8.. so I just nearly had a heart attack for no reason.

 

some folks try to make one of the extremely rare 1943 copper cents by altering a 1948 coin by removing the front half of the 8 to make the 8 look similar to a 3. this is probably what you were reading about.

 

'the member' begs to differ

the member's contention is that there was a die variety or hub variety or what ever, which manifests most prominently in the difference between the 3 on your coin, (SW tail) and the other type. No one here, not even the almighty simon his self even acknowledges that there are 2 type 3's found on the 43 steel cents. Notice he said yours was "due to a large number of other circumstances such as die stage, circulation wear, or a bunch of other factors" acknowledging that it is not what is expected to be there. How can there be so many of the exact same thing and it not be on a die or hub rather than just happenstance which just happens to repeat itself so precisely so often? Total violation of Occam's razar.

The evidence seems irrefutable.

Here is the original appearance of this concept:

http://www.cointalk.com/threads/1943-cents-were-there-different-types.228397/

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