I Took A Chance on This

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Last week I came across what appeared to be an extremely rare Domitian denarius on eBay. The picture wasn't exactly clear enough for me to make a definitive determination about the dating combination. So, I took a chance and won it at the opening bid of $75. No one else deemed it worthy enough for that price.

    What it needed to be for my gamble to pay off was TR P VI on the obverse matched with IMP XII on the reverse. Once in hand, I could see that the coin was indeed a second known specimen!

    D444a.jpg Domitian
    AR Denarius, 2.92g
    Rome mint, 86 AD
    RIC 444 (R3), BMC - , RSC -
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P VI; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: IMP XII COS XII CENS P P P; Minerva adv. r., with spear and shield (M1)
    Acquired from Ancient Treasures (eBay), April 2017.

    A second known Minerva fighting right from the third issue of 86. This rare dating combination could not have been struck for very long after Domitian became TR P VI in mid September, due to the the issue's extreme rarity. In fact, the final 'I' in the obverse legend appears to have been engraved over the tip of the bust, indicating it is a reworked TR P V die. Not long after this coin was struck (perhaps just a few days) word reached the mint of Domitian's thirteenth imperial acclamation, ending this issue's brief run.

    The denarii from this time period were engraved in a very fine style - this coin is an excellent example of such.

    To be honest, if it turned out the date on the coin wasn't all that rare I'd still be happy.
     
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  3. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Congrats David !

    an another issue:

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  4. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Ecellent style whatever the date of issue is. The TRP VI/IMP XII thingy is the cherry on the cake

    Well spotted David (the eye of the tiger ! )


    My TRP XV/IMP XXII humble example

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  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Coin looks great and congratulations on another rarity snatched up!
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Excellent catch @David Atherton. Good eye, but I suppose one would have to have an in depth knowledge of the series, as you do, to know what to look for. Congrats.
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    David, you're really capitalizing on your specialist knowledge! Congratulations :)
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice David. Only YOU would have gotten that! Well done, great coin, and well worth the money even if it WEREN'T rare!
     
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Congrats on another terrific purchase!! Rare with high artistry.... and a bargain to boot! WOW!!
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Great cherry-picking David, kudos!
     
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  11. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i would guess specializing does pay off, good nab Dave!
     
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  12. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Really nice catch David, congrats.
     
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  13. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Excellent score!
     
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  14. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Nice grab, pretty sure a lot of people would have missed it.
     
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  15. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Thanks everyone for the kind comments!

    I contacted Ted Buttrey about the piece, so hopefully the frequency will be updated in the Addenda from unique (R3) to scarce (R2).
     
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  16. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    nice coin/ only i dont like buy from ebay
     

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  20. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Well, I'm not going to argue. But the first 'numeral' you believe is there is actually the final 'S' in COS XII.

    And I won't even throw out there Dr. Buttrey agrees with my reading. ;)
     
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  21. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    you reverse is so hard to see XII

    oke
     
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