I Thought eBAY Put A Stop To This Sort Of Activity.

I guess not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251237181234?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

 

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The seller clearly states they're copies, and even provides pics of the reverses. I don't see a problem.

 

OK. Ummmm....I was under the understanding that eBAY had stopped sellers from selling copies of coins whether they were marked copy or not. Maybe I better check my meds. Might have taken the wrong thing.



http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/currstamps.html

 

The seller really is trying to be good; he clearly states the weight (21.5g) and composition (".999 clad"), shows a photo of the copy stamp, says "has copy stamp" in the subtitle, and he's even cross-listing them in the "fantasy issues" category. But he's still breaking the rules, and if the auction gets reported, it'll be shut down.

Oddly, the "report this auction" facility still doesn't reflect the new policy. It still just has a category for "replicas not clearly marked as copies", instead of just "prohibited replicas".

 

Even though they announced the new policy months ago, it wasn't to go into effect until February 20th, eight days past. The seller probably doesn't even know.

 

eBay no longer allows replica coins to be sold on eBay.

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• Counterfeit coins
  
  
• Counterfeit bank notes
  
  
• Counterfeit bonds
  
  
• Counterfeit money orders
  
  
• Counterfeit securities
  
  
• Equipment used to make counterfeit items
  
  
• Reproduction or replica versions of any Canadian currency
  
  
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But there is a fine line with what is used in jewlery, if you put it in a bezel or belt buckle it now qualifies as something else- correct?

 

I sold this as jewelry and was clear it was not real, the buyer left me positive feedback because I did not represent it as anything other than what it really was...

 

It was February 20, but it was February 20, 2012. Yes, it has been a policy, but not enforced outside USA. And like most every eBay policy, it is basically enforced only so well as the users report such items.

 

I'm not sure about the jewelry thing. I don't recall reading anything about that. There were in articles in Coin World and Numismatic News about the new Ebay policy but the info was sketchy at best. They said in both articles there were many questions yet to be answered.

 

Ha! Good catch on the February 2012 date Rim's Cents. I was a year off. Wow. I can't believe me sometimes.

 

To add to that, jewelry is not a coin, over/under sized piece do not qualify as coins, and bullion does not qualify as coins. On the bullion, I believe they have back down quite a bit.

 

The problem is replica coins are not allowed to be sold on eBay as per eBay's policies, whether they're marked as copies or not. Even having this item for sale is a violation of eBay's own policies. This policy has been in effect since 2/20/12.

 

They clearly haven't updated that as per their new policy then (though it's not really that "new" anymore as it's been in effect for over a year), because according to their policies coin replicas are not allowed, marked as copies or not. I still reported it. I'd encourage anyone else to do the same for this or any other such auction.

 

The seller in the OP's above auction is in compliance with the Hobby Protection Act of 1973. Anyone who reports the auction in the OP's post merely because "it is against the rules" has a nanny mentality and needs to rethink how they go about living life. The seller is not hurting anyone or anything by selling properly marked replicas of coins that are unattainable to your average collector. Let's use some critical thinking skills here and realize that we do not need to always play policeman and that there are more important things to worry about.

 

True. Not all rules have to be obeyed.

 

NOS, you liked this? It was not defending you, you know.

 

Now that was funny!!!!!

 

Even though you put the sarcastic smiley face next to your sentence I agree with what you said. Zero tolerance policies are garbage. Those who follow them without leaving room for ambiguity in how rules are enforced lack critical thinking skills and go through life living like a pre-programmed automaton. I'm not going to name names but some of the posts on the first page reminded me of this little punk I knew in the fifth grade. He would snitch on you for anything and everything. One day the class and teacher had enough of him and told him to knock off the incessant complaining.

 

I will tell you the true reason why eBay nixed the selling of fakes, even with a copy stamp.

I have a couple key date Morgan dollars that I ordered from China. Granted, the weight is way off, and I have them in holders marked "copy", the coins themselves are not stamped copy. I often show these to people, and have them "guess the fake". Well it's an easy guess if one is stamped copy!

Anyway, I looked at the offerings from the suppliers. While mine were just silver plated brass, they could make them out of coin silver. Then it's a little harder to tell since the weight is dead on.

The problem was that although many listings had a coin that was stamped "COPY", on eBay, the supplier would often ship ones that were not.

Thus eBay made it so no fakes could be sold. Many Chinese suppliers violated the hobby protection act.