I have a stupid question...

What is Cameo exactly on proof coins? I know it is on proof coins, but how can I tell if my coin is cameo or Ultra Cameo? I don't understand it. Any help will be appreciated.

 

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Cameo refers to the difference in appearence between the mirror-like fields of the coin and the frosted fields.

Regular proof Franklin Half

Proof Franklin Cameo

Proof franklin Ultra Cameo

 

It's kind of hard to see the difference, but it's there=p

 

Ok, thanks. I thought it had something to do with the frosted part. But it is the shiny mirror-like surface that determines if a coin is cameo? I'm still a bit confused?

 

From Wikipedia: The effect of "cameo" also refers to a proof coin that has frosted lettering and features, providing attractive contrast with the mirrored fields of the coin. The terms "deep cameo" and "ultra cameo" describe cameo coins having the boldest, most attractive contrast.

 

Alright, I think I got it now. Thanks for helping you 3.

 

I think a lot has to do with who is grading it and how they feel that day. Many would call this at least a cameo but NGC did not.

 

That is a definate cameo - send it in again

Ruben

 

Yea. NGC must of been on crack. That looks like an Ultra or Deep cameo, actually...

 

I've seen plenty of cameo coins lacking the cameo designation. And I'm not talking about the maybe ones, these are dead-on cams, but you know grading (always accurate *wink*).

 

NGC must of mixed the holder on that coin

 

It looks like a lot of frost to me o.o lol

 

This case too?

 

The only possible spot (lacking the cameo) that I see is on the forehead, do you see others?

 

This is a slight larger shot of the obverse Other Frank on the 1950 PF 66 Franklin. Thanks to all for the interest in this grading conundrum.

 

John:
Well, I don't work for a TPGS, but it looks very nice to me.
Perhaps that is why I don't work for them.

 

Hey Airedale
Nice 1950's! Are you doing a set of Proof Franklins?
I had a 1950 PF66 PCGS Half that was struck from worn dies and it really just looked like a business strike but a collector of proof coins could tell easy that it was a proof---I sent it to DLRC to sell and their "expert" called me and said that it was a Business Strike and that it was only worth $230---I told him that I disagreed and would take the coin back because it was a proof---I also pointed out to him places he could look to see that it was a proof---he called back later and said that he showed it to other people and they agreed with me and now his price was $400....I had paid $410 but it was worth it because I had just bought another PF66 Franklin dated 1950 graded by NGC that really looked good...and I had only paid $405 for it!

Speedy

 

Thanks Speedy. Do you have a picture of the newer one?

 

in regard to the cameo....is it because it is less frosty at the base of franklins bust as well as areas on the forehead? does it have to have "thick", consistent frost on on the devices to qualify for the cameo designation? they have a way to measure pl fields...do they have a measure in regards to frost? thanks for the info as well as the pics.