I almost never buy gold... but I did.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Thoughts on grade, authenticity, etc. are welcome. I would say it's AU. I can't detect any hairlines.
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I am not an expert, just own a couple, but the LIBERTY bothers me. Is that normal? That and overall mushiness bothers me sir.
     
  4. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    It looks good to me.
     
  5. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Hate to say it, but looks iffy to me. Not an expert on the $10 golds, but the details have that mushy look that fakes do.
     
  6. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    This design is nearly universally found mushy and that was one of the chief complaints by bank tellers and other businessman when the coin was issued.
     
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  7. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Still looks fake to me. Here is an AU50
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  8. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Is it a function of the S mint Tom? I believe my two examples are P mints. Did SF mint them differently at times?
     
  9. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    I think it's probably a good coin, though I do agree LIBERTY looks a little funky. Probably just the lighting used to photograph the coin, maybe a partial ring-LED light?? The legends on the reverse all look fully struck-up and the frosty surfaces without any dimples in the protected areas of the reverse legend convince me that the coin is authentic. I would call it an AU53.

    With the prices having dropped dramatically on Indian Eagles this past year, now is a great time to add them to your collection. You can get coins all the way up to certified MS62 for less than $750 right now, and coins as nice as AU58 for less than $650. To my way of thinking, there isn't a much better way to add gold to the hoard than these 100 year-old coins when they are selling at these prices.
     
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  10. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Compare the very top tip of the stars on the obverse to the known AU50. They are in a pretty protected area. All the AU50 ones are crisp and sharp still, and all of these are mushy, and not very sharp. I still say fake.
     
  11. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    I think it's the lighting on the stars as well. Notice the shadows are present on ALL of the edges of the stars, --because there isn't a single light source, but rather a whole bunch of individual LED light sources.
     
  12. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Compare the stems of the feathers.There is a lot more space in between the first 2 of the real one. Very good spacing between all the ones on the left. When you look at the one on the right, starts getting mushy above the LI
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  13. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Here's some more pics, different lighting.
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  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't know enough about these to make a judgement as to authenticity. I will say, however, that if it is real, the coin appears to have been polished - the fields in front of her face just don't feel right.
     
  16. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    The RTY on CBD's looks different compared to the authentic one.
     
  17. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    The weight is good.
     
  18. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Your coin looks to be a later die state, but I would be very surprised if it was fake.
     
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  19. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Many are made using the right gold. I still think there is a good chance it is a fake. What is the story? Where did you get it? Do you plan on grading it?
     
  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I think it'll grade AU55, but really it isn't worth doing that financially. The only reason would be to authenticate it, but between seeing it in-hand, the feel of it, and the weight of it, I believe it to be 100% genuine. I got it off eBay from a seller with a "no hassle returns" 14 day return policy and 100% feedback (I know, I know. That doesn't mean anything).
     
  21. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Better you than me. I make gambles with $5 gold and under, but I stay away from ungraded coins this expensive. I still wouldn't touch this coin with a 10 ft stick unless it was graded. Just looks off to me.
     
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