Hutt River Province Principality coins.

Has anyone else apart from me ever had any coins from this very interesting British Commonwealth monarchy? The ruler of the H.R.P.P. is none other than Prince Leonard,who has been the only monarch since the 21st of April 1970,when it became independent from Australia.

 

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I've got 50 CENTS 1977 and 5 DOLLARS 1992 coins, the latter a commem honoring early baseball pitcher Albert Spaulding (1850-1915).

 

I have a few of the larger denomination (5 dollar and up) NCLT pieces they have issued and I have two full sets of the small denomination (5, 10, 25 and 50 cent) coins that they issued. consider the small denomination pieces to be legitimate coins because they were intended to circulat in the province. (I also consider HRP to be a legitimate country as well.)

 

Condor101,I have got the 1977 10c.,50c. & commemorative Holey $1 (Queen Elizabeth II's Silver Jubilee),1978 5c.,10c,20c.,& 50c.,& 1991 $5
(AH64A Apache helicopter - Desert Storm commemorative).The 1978's are a proof-only issue
(which technically makes them medal-coins).It is the Holey $1 that really caught my eye when I bought it at a fair here in Wellington.

 

Here is a website link about the H.R.P.P. coins; www.imperial-collection.net/hutt_river_coins_01.htm .

Here is a link indicating where the H.R.P.P. is located; www.huttriver.net/HRHistory.htm .

Here's another H.R.P.P.-related link; http://huttriver.info .

I trust that you will find these to be of interest.

Aidan.

 

I have one coin of Hutt River Province. 5 Dollars.

 

Giladzuc,which one of the Hutt River Province Principality's $5 coins have you got? Could you please post some photos?

Aidan.

 

All,except 2 of the H.R.P.P. coins are now listed in Krause's Unusual World Coins catalogue.

Here's a link to the official website of the Hutt River Province Principality;
www.hutt-river-province.com

Aidan.

 

Micronation or Cinderalla?

I have banknotes:
10 cent
20 cent
50 cent
1 dollar
2 dollar
in an official envelope. Here are two.

(The coins of the HRP were the impetus for the Federal Trade Commission to claim that only a recognized government could issue "coins." Some people working for numismatic newspapers fell in line with this and that is why the "official" definition of "coin" says that it must be issued by a government. Of course, that begs a lot of questions...)

 

They must not really be a country, who cares what the FTC says. They do not have their own suffix at the end of their URL, only a dot.com, and that is what matters in the cyberian world.

 

Krisnaya Vityaz,the Hutt River Province Principality is most definitely a country,as it has a constitution,a government,& even its own armed forces.The Hutt River Province Principality is in the same catagory as the Republic of Somaliland.They are both countries which fulfil the criteria for recognition as countries,but are unjustly denied both recognition & membership of the British Commonwealth.A country does not need to have its own suffix at the end of their URL to be regarded as a country.The Somaliland Government's website ends in .com.You can find it here;
www.somalilandgov.com .

Mike,you are right to say that coins & notes are required to be issued by a government.The Hutt River Province Principality is an absolute monarchy,which means that Prince Leonard is both head of state & head of government,just like His Majesty,Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah of Brunei.

Aidan.

 

Enough said.

As far as I know, no country recogbizes HRP. Same for Sealand.

Saying you are a country does not make it so. Just ask the 18th century colonists in North America. They decalred themselved independent but still had to fight a war (two, actually) before the Motherland accepted it.

Having land and a few guns is not enough to earn recognition as a country. If it did, the USA would be about a million separate countries.

 

:thumb:

Right on, there are quite a few countries out their in the Western USA, everybody has their proverbial "Own Private Idaho" There is some guy selling coins from some of these self declared countries on eBay.

Even I could declare the land I own my own country, as Huey Long said "Every man is a King" or something similar. Maybe I should do that, and declare war on the USA, so I can collect reparations like the Grand Duchy of Fenwick did in "The Mouse that Roared"

 

Not many people in Australia have heard of this place and most think its a joke. The Australian government doesnt recognise it either. But I think its good and they should produce more coins.

 

Glen Warren,I have a friend in Sydney who has heard of both Prince Leonard & the Hutt River Province Principality.The last H.R.P.P. coin was issued in 2000 - a gold $100 medal-coin commemorating the 30th Anniversary of Independence.Did you know that the H.R.P.P. is the only British Commonwealth country to have issued coins of a $30 denomination? I have found the H.R.P.P. coins very difficult to find.

Aidan.

 

It's been done, but it is very difficult to get the US to pay reparations sometimes see Conch Republic

 

I thought I saw somewhere that these guys actually made a few Conch Dollars and sold them. Actually they appear from their website to be having a lot of fun, rather than being too serious about it.

 

There's a book out called "how to start your own country" and quite a few conmen and women have actually tried, my favorite is "minerva" which only existed at low tide.

The Hutt River Province is a tax dodge, a scam. Sealand is also, but is actually a bit less so, as it has had a war with the then West Germany and recognition by a lower British court.

Three phoney countries: Monaco, the Vatican and San Marino, actually issue genuine euros, but that's more a political thing than a scam.

 

I will not venture the Vatican and Monaco, but San Marino has a very long history of autonomy and really doesn't suck in outside money like the other two.

Even President Lincoln praised the Republic of San Marino in a speech in 1861 as one of the oldest countries in the world.

 

A brief Histoty then of a noon excistant country

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1297 : François Grimaldi and his Guelph supporters seized the fortress of Monaco.
1346 : Charles Grimaldi acquired the lordship of Menton and in . . .
1355 : the lordship of Roquebrune.
1489 : King Charles VIII of France recognized the independence of Monaco, confirmed in . . .
1512 : by King Louis XII and in . . .
1515 : by King François I.
1524 : Augustin I placed Monaco under the protection of Spain.
1614 : Honoré II adopted the title of Prince of Monaco.
1641 : end of the Spanish protectorate. Honoré III signed the Treaty of Péronne with Louis XII which assured the Principality of the "protective friendship of France". As compensation for the loss of the privileges granted by Spain, the Prince of Monaco received fiefs in France. During his reign, Prince Honoré II worked on the embellishment of the Palace.
1662 : death of Prince Honoré II ; his grandson, Prince Louis I, succeeded him.
1698 : Louis XIV gave to Louis I the Embassy of France to the Holy See.
1701 : death of Louis I ; his son, Antoine I, married to Marie of Lorraine, whose family was linked to the throne of France, succeeded him. During his reign, the Principality was given new fortifications.
1731 : death of Antoine I with no male heir. His daughter, Louise-Hippolyte, succeeded him but died only a few months later. His son-in-law, Jacques de Goyon, Lord of Matignon, became Prince of Monaco but in . . .
1733 : left the throne to his son, Prince Honoré III, then aged 13.
1793 : the Principality was attached to the territory of the French Republic under the name of Fort Hercules and became chief town of the canton of the Alpes-Maritimes, then a simple commune.
1795 : death in Paris of Prince Honoré III.
1814 : the Grimaldis of Monaco were re-invested with all their rights (the Treaty of Péronne again in force).
1815 : the Treaty of Paris (20th November 1815) placed the Principality under the protection of the King of Sardinia.
1817 : the Treaty of Stupiniggi (8th November 1817) placed Monaco under the protection of Sardinia.
1841 : death of Honoré V ; his brother, Florestan I, became Prince of Monaco.
1848 : revolution in Menton and Roquebrune which proclaimed themselves to be free towns.
1856 : death of Florestan I ; his son Charles III succeeded him.
1860 : by the Treaty of Turin, King Victor Emmanuel II of Italy ceded Savoy and the County of Nice to Napoleon III.
1861 : Charles III granted to France his rights over Menton and Roquebrune and signed a treaty which guaranteed the independence of Monaco.
1863 : founding of the Seabath Company which established a casino and several hotels in the quarter known as "the Spelugues" which in . . .
1866 : changed its name to that of Monte Carlo.
1889 : death of Prince Charles III ; succession of his son, Prince Albert I, whose discoveries in the fields of oceanography and paleontology won him a great reputation in scientific circles throughout the world.
1911 : Prince Albert I promulgated the first constitution.
1922 : death of Prince Albert I ; his son, Prince Louis II, a General in the French army, succeeded him.
1949 : death of Prince Louis II ; succession of his grandson, H.S.H. Prince Rainier III (born in 1923).
1951 : signing of the Franco-Monégasque convention of friendship and mutual administrative assistance.
1956 : Prince Rainier III married Miss Grace Patricia Kelly.
1957 : birth of H.S.H. Princess Caroline.
1958 : birth of H.S.H. Prince Albert.
1962 : promulgation of a new constitution.
1963 : (18th May) new conventions were signed in Paris. The texts on which relations between the Principality and France are based are now the treaty of 2nd February, 1861, the treaty of 17th July, 1918, the conventions of 14th April, 1945, and the agreements of 18th May, 1963.
1965 : birth of H.S.H. Princess Stephanie.
1966 : centenary of Monte Carlo.
1966 : majority shareholding of the State in the capital of the Seabath Company. Large-scale increase of activity over the whole range of its establishments in the field of employment.
1974 : 25th anniversary of the accession of Prince Rainier III.
1981 : laying of the first stone of new town of Fontvieille by Prince Albert, Heir to the Throne.
1982 : death of Princess Grace.
1989 : 40th anniversary of the accession of Prince Rainier III.
1993 : Monaco joins U.N. (28TH May).



Not bad for a nothing state LOL

De Orc :kewl: