Huge Roman Coin Hoard Found at Bath (England)

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  1. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Hoard of 30,000 silver Roman coins discovered in Bath

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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    These big hoards are really neat!
     
  4. medoraman

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    3rd century roman silver from England, huh? I bet you the yield rate of them will be pretty low. I have seen a lot of those coins from metal detectorists in England, and most of those coins, if not buried in a pot, are in extremely poor condition.

    Its cool they found them, I am just saying I would not expect to find 30,000 good coins of these hitting the market in the future. :)
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Even though it states around 270 A.D., I just wonder how many will be Gordian III or Gallienus, lol. Like we need more of them :p
     
  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    One day they will find a hoard full of Julius Caesar, Eid Mar's, and others. and drop the price of them all :)
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Haha, yeah right. Just like there is so many Athens/Owl yet remain pricey. Toss Tribute penny in it too :(


    More Otho, Vitellius, or Galba ARs would be nice :D
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This hoard photo looks nasty. It will be interesting to see what the BM professionals can do in conservation. I see that a museum group wants to buy them for display over there rather than selling them on the market. Usually I do not support such ideas but if the coins are all trash, their best use might be as a lump. If you read BMCRE volume V hoard lists your eye gets caught on one entry of 5000 denarii all of Clodius Albinus found near Lyon. These would all be his issue as Augustus. I suspect they would be a mint bag full (or pot) and have no idea whether they are in a museum or make up 90% of the known mint state coins of this variety on the market. It is in no way impossible that a pot of EID MAR denarii is out there. I suspect 5000 of them could be absorbed in the market without dropping the price below $10,000. Demand drives price and a lot of us who know we will never have one would put it on our active want list and decide we really did want to buy one rather than go on vacation for the next few years.
     
  9. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Or some of us would just dip into the piggy bank and buy 2 or 3. Hoards are interesting. My advice is to always buy into a hoard when you see it on the market. They are always absorbed even if for a while they seem to be everywhere. I remember Brutus, (Dacia) gold coins on every single table at CICF a decade ago, now they are scarcish again.
     
  10. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    What is current today? I believe those countermarked Hephthalite drachms may be in that category. I recently upgraded my one with two cm's but the rare ones seem to have three like the first one I got. Any other 'buy it now' coins?
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    True, those Phoro coins were around a lot 6 months ago. I got some of them as well as other CM hepthalites. I got some great Kushan coins in group lots 3 months ago, seems to be some good stuff coming out of Pakistan I am guessing.

    About 2-3 years ago must have been a large nabatean find. I bought 200 bronzes of those. There still is large hoards of judean, but an experienced dealer have them and are slowly releasing them onto the market, (I think you know who). There was also a large cache of Hormizd II about a year or so, I have bought 4 XF coins in the last year of this previously rare ruler.

    Nothing else is really popping out at me, but if I go to CICF I am sure I will see something. If I do I will post. I bet you there is something in Greek and Roman right now, but I haven't been paying as much attention to them lately.

    Chris
     
  12. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Good find, Hobo:

    Here are some pictures associated with other articles on the hoard, now being referred to as the "Beau Street Hoard:"


    Beau Street Hoard III.jpg Beau Street Hoard.jpg

    http://news.discovery.com/history/roman-coins-120323.html

    One can't be certain that the pictures are of the actual Beau Street Hoard or just "stock" hoard photos.

    Whose monitor allows them to identify the radiates?

    What is the bluish discoloration on the coins?


    guy
     
  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I see a empress in the top pic, Herennia Etruscilla. So for sure there is some 240s A.D. in it.

    Blue stuff is hard minerals that formed from the dirt I believe.
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Gordian, Phillip II. The story confuses things giving dates fro the Frome Hoard. The first picture I saw looked like later bronzes of the Gallienus era fused in a mass but here we see muddy singles. Stay tuned, responsible journalism may follow later if we are lucky.
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    The coins of this period had a lot of copper in them. Blue is the color of an oxide of copper and is what is giving it the blue color I am guessing. If it were silver oxide it would be blackish.
     
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