HR monogram on coins of Constans

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Gavin Richardson, Jan 27, 2018.

  1. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

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    To me, these "two victory" reverse types are among the least interesting LRBs, and this particular coin is no beauty--at least not the obverse.

    But in re-cataloging this coin, I noticed the monogram between the victories. Apparently it's an HR monogram. Does anyone know what it's for? I read that the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius would use that monogram, but he's yet to be born. It can't stand for the mint Heraclea since this coin was struck in Siscia.

    Any idea what that HR monogram signified?
     
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    just a guess (since we don't) maybe the mint supervisor
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Apparently one of many different marks used in the series:

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  5. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    That’s helpful @Roman Collector . It seems an oddly specific control mark. I don’t have RIC to hand. If that mark is only used at Siscia, then perhaps there’s a greater argument for Victor’s suggestion that it could be related to a mint supervisor there.
     
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  6. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    A quick skim of various coins on VCoins shows a lot of interesting control marks--letters, leaves, etc. HR recurs only at Siscia. (Arles, for example, uses an N.) HR is used on the Two Victories reverse for Constantius II too.

    Again, a monogram seems an odd control mark to me. I'd like to think it is indeed a reference to a person. Harold Ramis? Hillary Rodham? The mystery continues...
     
  7. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    What a coincidence. Just last night I was going through my first lot of uncleaned coins and this was the first decent piece I found. On Wildwinds I found it as Siscia RIC VIII 192.
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  8. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    That shows very nice detail.
     
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