How to tell if Silver is Fake?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Camreno, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    I've been seeing alot of fake Chinese replicas that are getting harder and hard to tell the authenticy. But its not only the old coins they are faking, they now fake bullion rounds and bars.

    The three ways I know of are the weight, magnetic, ring test, and physical look. I also know you can test with the acid but that would ruin collectibles and new bullion.

    Does anyone have any other methods which they test counterfeits?
     
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  3. gxseries

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  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The things you already mentioned are the easiest to perform, but you can also do a specific gravity test if you are willing to expend the time and effort.

    Look and ring test really aren't going to tell you much or be very reliable.
     
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  5. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    I have a Silver American Eagle 1oz bullion round that im sure is real because all of my others are the same size, But I also just got a 1oz Standing Liberty round that is smaller, I wonder if its fake.
     
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Is it thicker? Weigh it.
     
  7. Camreno

    Camreno Active Member

    Its not thicker but its the same weight, It also dosent right like silver does
     
  8. Harvey Queen

    Harvey Queen New Member

    It is hard to tell if a silver is fake but if you scratch it in a stone and if show silver again it means it is not fake.In Finland where their is a company who do silver for cash at http://www.verkkokulta.fi/ they know that the silver is fake and gold is fake.
     
  9. gubni

    gubni Active Member

    Magnet slide test is the best way.
     
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  10. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    my only issue unless your buying large quanities of gold your not going to need one of these expensive machines.. a common buyer may not be able to afford it..
    or much rather NUMISMATIST
     
  11. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    What is the magnetic slide test? I am curious.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Specific gravity is very useful if you wish to learn it.
    It takes a little time to understand it all.
    Once you get there it's really simple.
    This old link is great but I can't find the images that came out with it.
    Someone here will have a better link on the topic.
    http://www.numismedia.com/101/index5.shtml
     
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  13. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    One thing I love about this hobby is you can never learn to much. I just book marked that page. Thank you.
     
  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    This source assumes a triple beam type of balance , which although readily available as surplus is not even commonly found in labs any more, and I would guess that 90% or more of numismatists have only electronic balances available. Here is a specific gravity 'kit' which can be used with electronic balances, or a 'poorman's ' physical balance that is less costly, but both are very reasonable .
    http://www.mineralab.com/SpecificGravity/
     
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  15. gubni

    gubni Active Member

  16. Coinman1974

    Coinman1974 Research, Research, Research

    A very informative video.
     
  17. SilverSurfer415

    SilverSurfer415 Well-Known Member

    Some say silver also melts ice quicker.
    Never tried it myself.
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    You are talking about the specific heat constant of an element. It is even more difficult to do than a specific gravity. My College chem students have a hard time getting good answer even with calorimeter setup and good balances and thermometers. Here is a page to give you an idea.

    http://www.kentchemistry.com/links/Energy/SpecificHeat.htm
     
  19. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    just go buy a Olympus
     
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    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

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    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

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