how to identify a old great britan proof?

i have a 1925 six pence and 1 shilling 1946

what are the difference in the proof and circulated ones

my dealer dosent care about old foreign stuff all he does is finds out the asw and sells for melt

 

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That is not true. Dealers want to make money. It just means he does not have any good foreign coins.

 

Try this thread at CT:
http://www.cointalk.com/t217412/
Stay thirsty my friend. :smile

 

Neither of those date/denominations come up as having had proof issues, so I think it is very unlikely you have turned up something unique! Post some pictures if you like...

Neither date is particularly scarce either, and at present in the UK large numbers of these coins are being melted, even in EF condition, because supply is high and numismatic demand is low. So your dealer on this occasion is about right.

 

not true im in there at least once a week and iv seen him quickly look over some ones foreign coins buy them and just throw them in the silver foreign bin or normal foreign bin

i baught a 1943 netherlands ten cent silver coin at melt for around 80 cents braught it home reasereched it found the palmtree pivy mark. and found out that its actualy from curacao minted here in philly and worth more then triple what i paid. also the same place i got the norfeds from at spot. he knew some of the story behind them but didnt look up how much they were going for.

hes not a full blown coin shop its a small coin/silver store hes also a member of my small towns coin club

 

there in the 2010 standard catalog of world coins 1901 t0 2000 book i love how they look

 

I don't agree. Most coin dealers in the U.S. see foreign coins as junk that isn't worth their time, and most collectors are the same. I find bargains all the time because the dealers don't care enough to learn the key dates and countries and throw everything together in the junk bin.

 

Your statement is very true. In my little part of the world, there is no World coin dealers, only US coin dealers. They do not want to even look at any coin that is not US.

 

Count yourself lucky to have any! I doubt there are more than half a dozen coin "shops" as such in the UK, despite a population of over 70 million. The high cost of business rates etc has put them all out of business, and what dealers are left work at the occasional coin fairs, antique fairs, or face to face.

 

Nice coins Enochian! As I collect British coins, I am bound to admire their design. The 1946 Shilling is the English version by the way - the Scottish version has the lion facing head on. (I always remember it by the duplicitous English never looking you straight in the eye! And I am English!)

Here are some examples to teach you more if you are interested:



Left hand coin is my 1946 English Shilling - a lovely coin, but still not a proof coin, and only worth a little over scrap.
Middle coin is my 1920 Sixpence - still not proof, and still only worth a few times scrap value.
Right hand coin is my 1927 threepence - this is Proof, but the only way I can be certain of this is that none were issued other than in proof! It is one of the scarcest threepences, and worth GBP 80 to 100.

Feel free to ask for more info if you need - I have examples of most British coins to share.

 

very nice thankyou i love yours

 

I REALLY have to do a whirlwind, America-wide coin buying spree some day...

 

That's why I like to visit a lot of different shops and keep coming back. You don't know what you'll find and you want to make sure to get it before one of the few other world coin collectors finds it.

 

The Krause 2013 lists two proofs for the 1946 1 shilling, KM 853/4 valued at 1,200 US. Also, two circulation issues for the 1925 6P, KM 815a.1 and 815a.2 valued at 50 and 45 US UNC and 15 and 20 US XF.

 

thank you for your help i was shown a different proof in the post foreign thread i think mine are normal

 

That is interesting as the Spinks year book, which is the UK "bible" for coins, makes no mention a proof coin for 1946 in either Scottish or English version. Spinks very carefully lists all proofs usually, and in the half silver date range 1937 to 1946 shillings, the only ones mentioned are in the 1937 proof set. As Spinks is specialised on British coins I would rather believe that than Krause - in ths same way as most US collectors would prefer the Red book for US coins over Krause.

Certainly there are two varieties of the 1925 sixpence, but neither of them proof. The differences are minor - to do with the thickness of the rim and the style of the beading, and the values are broadly the same.

 

Maybe the confusion is with this.

 

krause pretty much lists a proof for almost all years from 30s and 40s and all same value 1000