How to AT US Silver Eagle?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by olero, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. olero

    olero Active Member

    I've seen a lot of silver coins that look like this guys toned silver eagle. I am not sure I could tell the difference between a NT and a AT coin.
    The video starts at about a minute in:


    Stuff like this makes it hard to pull the trigger on buying something from a photo.
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    question is....why would you want to do this ?
     
  4. olero

    olero Active Member

    I would imagine if someone had a cleaned coin and wanted it toned.
    I think it would be risky to do on a coin that had a lot of value.
    But I don't know if I could tell the difference when I was considering a coin to buy.
    I guess my question is how would I know the difference?
     
  5. WLH22

    WLH22 Well-Known Member

    Why? Big money in toned coins, including ASE's.
     
  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    big money in real toning yes. toned ASE's is a huge waste of money. the toning on the video ASE looks terrible.
     
  7. olero

    olero Active Member

    Not only ASEs.
    I could be just the fool to buy something like that and years later decide to have it TPGed and surprise..surprise. I've been had.
     
  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    If you buy from trusted dealers this will minimize your risk as well as if you buy already TPG approved toned coins.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes.

    Yes, and no. There are plenty of AT coins in TPG slabs, some of them ASEs. Coins have even been artificially toned while they were in the TPG slabs.
     
  10. olero

    olero Active Member

    If I buy a TPGed coin I would like to put into a set, I would have to bust it open. That would be something I wouldn't want to do because of the expense of having something TPGed. If I buy from a dealer, the dealer my not be around anymore.
    I have bought coins from a dealer along time ago. They would buy back anything they sold. Only problem is Bowers & Ruddy is no more (I don't think they are around anymore). At least not together. I don't even have the paper work from 30 years ago.
     
  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I was only trying to offer some suggestions but in those cases you could always just buy direct from the Mint.
     
  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Yes. My point was those coins had the TPG blessing already.
     
  13. olero

    olero Active Member

    I am trying to buy a Seated Dollar. I see a lot of beautifully tone dollars but I am not experienced enough to tell the difference in a NT and AT dollar.
    Jwt708
    I really do appreciate your help though.
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    It would be interesting to see that coin after 5 years. They made some serious chemical mistakes in producing the color change, not readily apparent immediately, but will show up later.
     
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  15. olero

    olero Active Member

    That is the very reason I would not do that on one of my coin. Maybe on something that didn't have any numismatic value . Just melt value.

    Plus it would be very dishonest to do that to some unsuspecting person.
    And if there is profit to be made I am quit sure it has been done.
     
  16. olero

    olero Active Member

    And if one can't believe the experts, what chance does someone like me have? I guess one just pays there money and takes there chances.

    One thing I could do is buy one that you know is ATed, at least one would know what they were buying.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2015
  17. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    There is a seller in eBay who artificially tones coins and sells them as such, full disclosure. I don't like it but I think there is nothing really wrong with selling a coin correctly described. I suggest not wasting your money on an artificially toned coins and just saving for the right one.

    Saving is hard. :oops:
     
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  18. olero

    olero Active Member

    I agree. I have been looking for at least a month now. I use to be able to say "I have more time than money". As I get older I don't have as much of either.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2015
  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Heh...

    Wait...:oops:...
     
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