Horrible Ebay experience

Hello, 1st post here. I have been collecting coins for 35 years, and now have my 2 kids in it also. I just have to relate the worst rip off experience in my collecting life.
I purchased an 1881-S $ from Top Line Dmpls, a seller on Ebay. Pictured was a gorgeous gem DMPL early S mint Morgan, the kind of Gem you would expect. What I received was a bagged up XF / AU junker. Seller more or less says Edited: This is a family oriented forum. Children view these posts. Please don't use fowl or suggestive language. Wow, I guess I should have known. Whatever, wow, just a little steamed here.:loud:

 

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Arizona Jack:
First-- welcome to the forum.
2) Can you return the item?
3) or place a complaint with eBay-- at least get some satisfaction that way.

Stay around, and other members may have some suggestions.

 

Welcome to the forum Jack

 

Ive seen that some of the items there for bid read that the item you see is the item you get. Others note that what you see is a file photo or something like that. I hope you can return it. Oh, by the way; welcome.

 

i believe that seller is a member of this forum. we should be able to hear both sides of the story, and both parties might be able to come up with a more favorable outcome without having to resort to negative feedbacks and official complaints.

 

Can you still link to the auction and post a pic of the coin rcvd?

 

I am pretty sure this is the auction he is referring to 1881-S

 

I purchased a coin on ebay...when it came it was NOT the coin pictured. I scanned it and sent the picture to the seller.... the seller said in effect.... ooooppps.... and he sent on the correct coin...I returned the incorrect coin....

 

Dont Feel Alone Jack I Bought A 1896 Slabbed Ms 67 When It Came I Knew It Wasnt A Ms67, So I Cracked It Open And Sent It To Pcgs,it Came Back An Au 55 Ebay Acted Like They Didnt Even Want To Hear It

 

Sorry for your guys' experience.
As for the MS67 that came back as AU55 you're right ebay couldn't care less. They got the seller fee and all they will tell you is that it's subjective.
Ebay knows that people get scammed everyday but hide behind the thin veil of subjectivity and opinions. Power sellers are untouchable.

Now would you mind telling us what company originally slabbed the coin? That's always a great topic for discussion here.

 

Welcome to the forum. Don't feel too bad. Plenty of us here have bought coins on ebay and had been disappointed as to the quality or grading claimed. A reputable seller will refund your money if you're not satisfied with your purchase.
I'd like to know who the TPG was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the ones discussed here before. Sometimes it's hard to stop them from ripping off new customers, but we can still educate the public before they buy these coins.

 

His auction says "You get exactly what you see" then scrolling to the bottom where it says return policy, it says not specified. Its no wonder he has a 92.3% feedback rating. Maybe if you contact the seller and explain the problem you guys can work something out.
BTW, Welcome to the forum!!!

 

Why would you do that?

 

You are correct, as I have bid on a few of their auctions, but for the life of me, I don't recall what their forum name is lol

And in welcomign our new member, I do hope you can to a good resolution to this, maybe using CT can be a means to an end for you

 

Not to defend this seller, but... the neg. feedback was given by the thread starter for the issue being discussed in this thread. Before that the seller had all positives, and with only 13 feedbacks, one neg. drops the percentage down quickly (to 92.3% in this case). You have to look at more than just the percentage, as some high volume sellers have relatively high percentages, but they may have 1,000 neg. feedbacks (which in my book, means you stand a fairly good chance of having a problem).

 

One of the basic rules of e-bay buying is to also check seller stats. Not sure I would buy a $150 coin from someone with a rating of 10. There simply is no track record. I know you have to start somewhere, but as a buyer, I need something that tells me you can describe that $150 coin properly - after all, we're not talking about a AG3 1943 Walker here.

 

I noticed this too as well as what Pocket Change has to say.

Although feedback has become somewhat of a game over the years it is still useful. You have to take the time to look into it.
When I see a negative in someones feedback I will frequently go back and check the feedback of the person that left it. You will often find out that the person that posted the negative has plenty of their own.

You also have your share of just plain idiots out there. When I started selling on Overstock I had a bimbo leave me a "two thumbs down" rating moments after an auction ended. Her reasoning? took too long. Well I managed to get that deleted after I ripped her a new (well you know). She said she did it on a dare.

I had another leave me a neutral because the coin was a bit pricey. Excuse me did I twist your arm to bid?

Use the feedback and look for idiots. They are out there.

IF you are bidding on a new sellers auctions ask A LOT of questions and keep the emails. If you don't get responses to emails it's very simple - DON'T BID!

 

What's with these "newbies" to this forum? They come on to complain about something, then disappear??? They go away without answering any questions. His thread had to be edited by a moderator also. I don't understand this. Does anybody believe that this guy will be coming back to this forum? I think that there is something fishy going on here. Didn't he investigate this seller? This seller looks like he had a 100% rating before this guy left him that negative feedback. This is not the first time that this has happened. What was his feedback rating before he bid on that coin? Just some thoughts that I had while reading over this thread.

swick

 

For whatever it's worth, the seller lists Cointalk as a favorite link on his "Me" page. Probably where the seller got this URL to do his post.

 

I just don't like these types of auctions ..they are a BIG red flag.
Why is he selling a "$300-$900 coin" for $150.00?
That just smells fishy.

Like the guy selling $1,500 watches on the streets of NY for $35.00 or the leather shop in Little Italy selling $450.00 leather jackets for $99.00.

If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.
This is a perfect example.

that was a $150.00 lesson ...good thing you weren't buy raw ebay gold ...ouch !