Honest propaganda

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  1. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Inspired from @Orange Julius Annoying Advertisements, I think we need to acknowledge where it's right!
    Like this Restitutor Orbis issue of Aurelian, the only person after Pax Romana who had the right to issue coins with this title!
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    Or his coins featuring Eastern victories!
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    Please post coins that are actually true in its message!
     
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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Sachsen/ Electorate
    AV 2 Dukaten 1630
    Dresden Mint
    Johann Georg I
    Struck to commerate the Centennial of the Augsburg Confession of 1530/ When HRE Karl V met with Church leaders/ Heads of State to discuss the Reformation and its inherent spread throughout Europe. 15cd1b5d6b52560057fb3f84bab2a396.jpg
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Faustina's Fecundity was NOT exaggerated!

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    Faustina II, AD 147-175.
    Roman oricalchum sestertius, 22.36 gm, 33.7 mm, 12 h.
    Rome, December AD 160.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: FECVND AVGVSTAE S C, (Faustina as) Fecunditas standing left, between two children (thought to represent Faustina III and Lucilla), holding two infants in her arms (thought to represent Fadilla and Cornificia).
    Refs: RIC 1635; BMCRE 902-904; Cohen 96; Strack 1336; RCV 5273; MIR 10.

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    Faustina II, AD 147-175.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.10 g, 17.7 mm, 5 h.
    Rome, AD 161.
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
    Rev: TEMPOR FELIC, female figure, standing left, holding an infant in each arm; at either side, two children standing.
    Refs: RIC 719; BMC 156-157; RSC 221; RCV 5263; CRE 179; MIR 31-4/10a.
    Note: The coin well illustrates the "all-round legends" as used December 160 - 163.
     
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  5. Mr.MonkeySwag96

    Mr.MonkeySwag96 Well-Known Member

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    Maximinus, 235 - 238 AD Silver Denarius, Rome Mint, 20mm, 3.30 grams Obverse: IMP MAXIMINVS PIVS AVG, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Maximinus right. Reverse: VICTORIA AVG, Victory advancing right holding wreath and palm. RIC 16

    Ex. Ken Dorney on Vcoins

    Emperor Maximinus Thrax successfully campaigned into Germania, crushing the Alemanni tribe to earn himself the title of Germanicus Maximus. He also had minor victories against the Dacians and Sarmatians.

    Maximinus’s present day descendant, Giga Chad:

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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    "What is this, propaganda?"
    - Mae West, My Little Chickadee (1940)
     
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  7. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    I've showed these coins before, but they fit many themes! Many Roman coins exaggerated their emperors' exploits in war and captive-taking (especially later ones), but the Julius Caesar & Hostilius Saserna series pretty accurately conveyed the conquest of Gaul.

    It's my opinion -- not only mine, but certainly not universal -- that Vercingetorix is portrayed on the two coins (Caesar's rev., Saserna's obv.). I believe the Gallia (as Pallor) coin was also based on a real-life captive Gallic model (perhaps even a wife or relative of Vercingetorix?), at least for some of the obverse dies like this one, which were highly "realistic" in style (others were clearly of an "idealized" and more abstract artistic style).

    The arms and war trumpets are also depicted with attention to accurate details (unfortunately mine has lost a bit on the top). I believe those two figures actually were trotted back to Rome and held in captivity until they could be displayed in Caesar's triumph (at which Vercingetorix was probably publicly killed; if he had a surviving wife/daughter she may have been kept as an Imperial slave/hostage of some kind). They were also symbolic, of course, and inspired four centuries of Two Captives-and-Trophy coinage.

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    The "Master Die of the Dreadlocked Gallia":
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    Similarly, there were Vercingetorix" dies had a similar hyper-realistic portrait. This one is very worn, so I'm not quite sure if it was from a "realistic" or a lesser die (still conveys the "idea of Vercingetorix" if not a full likeness). Not certain if the Celts used war chariots with two horses as depicted on the reverse, but I believe they did use horse-drawn war chariots, so that may be an accurate depiction too:
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  8. El Cazador

    El Cazador Well-Known Member

    Looks like a Green Giant
     
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