hone your grading skills -- high relief peace dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Leadfoot, May 25, 2007.

  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    This coin just arrived at my doorstep for addition into my type set, and I have decided to keep the coin. Please guess the grade that NGC assigned to the coin, and please share any comments you may have on the coin -- both good and bad -- they are most appreciated:

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    Have fun...Mike
     
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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    ok... here's my 2¢

    First off, I LOVE the Peace Dollar, and 1921 is one of my favorite coin years, so this one makes my heart race! That said, grading is NOT an emotional exercise, so I will now subjectively grade it.

    My guess is that NGC said AU55, and that you probably hoped for an MS coin. There is a slight friction seemingly (to me) on the cheek and top of the hair. I also see it on the reverse in the neck shoulder and wing feathers.

    These are only impressions from viewing the photos supplied, and I have always said that grading from photos is far from a science!

    hth,

    mikenoodle
     
  4. AnemicOak

    AnemicOak Coin Hoarder

    She has a bit of pizza face, but none the less a beauty. I'd say they graded it AU58
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Mike:
    That reverse is great, and nicely struck.
    The obverse, obviously, is not as well struck.
    Considering the bag mark on the cheek, I'd guess around MS-62.
    Still a beautiful coin.
    I even like it in lower grades, and think that It still has a lot of price potiential.
     
  6. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Man, she is a beauty! And a toughie to boot. Amazing luster, but I think I agree with mike on the friction, just trying to determine it from a weak strike. I honestly think NGC graded it anywhere from AU 58 to a 62. Final guess, AU-58. Very nice coin though. :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  7. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I'm going with AU58. Beautiful coin!
     
  8. Kage Sama

    Kage Sama Local Curmudgeon

    Not having the ANA grading guide with me, but looking at what appears to be a lot of wear on the hair on the obverse and what appears to be a worn rim below the 1 in the 21, I'm going to be the contrarian here and say XF-40.
     
  9. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I am going to guess AU 53 due to the amount of wear in the hair and around the date and little bit of wear on eagle feathers.

    Very Nice Coin!
     
  10. tcore

    tcore Coin Collector

    I'd definitely like to have to coin to rotate in hand to check for wear, but I'm going to say AU55 for now based on the pics.
     
  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    okay, what is the grade!
     
  12. kiwi01

    kiwi01 Senior Member

    I would have to go with AU55. She is a very pretty coin!
     
  13. b.j.

    b.j. Senior Member

    I would give it an MS-61. Weak strike (very common for the 1921 Peace). Lots of bag marks. Since I can't see it in hand, I'm assuming that there is no wear.
     
  14. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Looks ms-63 to me, and I suspect NGC gave it the same.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    My grade - 62. And if NGC said any higher I'll be surprised. There's just too many hits on the obverse.
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    62!! Look at the date? I'm looking at this coin and seeing it as an AU, not even an MS.
    To my eyes, there is wear on this coin.

    Ruben
     
  17. sumorada

    sumorada Senior Member

    i like it,i think it's ms62+..........so i'll go for NGC MS63!

    nice coin no matter what, congrats!
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Possibly, but I don't see it based on the pics. This is one of those coins where almost the entire mintage was very weakly struck.
     
  19. craig a

    craig a Coin Hoarder

    My guess...ms62-3..I heard that ngc is more liberal than other graders(sic). How'd I do?
     
  20. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I don't do this to sway you guys, but after careful examination of the coin the area near the date is almost certainly weakly struck and not wear.

    However, and at this point, I can neither confirm nor deny wear in other areas of the coin. :D

    I'll post the grade sometime tomorrow to give others a chance to guess. Have fun and thanks everyone for the comments and guesses thusfar...Mike
     
  21. Rabone

    Rabone All around nice guy

    I agree with the obverse hits, but that is the nature of these large silvers. Besides, probably went straight from the coining room to the vault for 20 plus years.
    I was going to say 63, as the usually weak strike of the eagle looks pretty good in this example.
    JMHO, feel free to disagree with it.
     
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