hone your grading skills -- braided hair half cent

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  1. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Please guess the grade that NGC assigned to this one:

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    Have fun...Mike
     
    Leadfoot, Jun 20, 2006
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  3. gulfofmex

    gulfofmex Senior Member

    I've never even looked at a 1/2 before, but if I had to guess, I would say ms 66-68, but honestly, I have no idea
     
    gulfofmex, Jun 20, 2006
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  4. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I would say AU-58, but then again I don't believe in cabinet rub either ;)

    Bone
     
    Bonedigger, Jun 20, 2006
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  5. sean041487

    sean041487 New Member

    extremely fine-40
     
    sean041487, Jun 20, 2006
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  6. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    ms-63 RB
     
    zaneman, Jun 20, 2006
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  7. Spider

    Spider ~

    I would grade it, but I dont like your attitude, hmmmfff (powts)sp?
     
    Spider, Jun 20, 2006
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  8. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Also, are the letters in liberty doubled?
     
    zaneman, Jun 20, 2006
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  9. rocketman

    rocketman New Member

    My guess is AU-50
     
    rocketman, Jun 20, 2006
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  10. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    AU-55 Minimum. I dont think that it is MS, but grading co.'s are tricky!!!
     
    YNcoinpro_U.S., Jun 20, 2006
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  11. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    My guess is MS60. Your pictures are so big and nice I think it makes the flaws more pronounced. I also can not tell if some of the shading is a little wear or the picture. Still a nice coin!
     
    mark_h, Jun 20, 2006
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  12. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    My grade is AU58---but I can see it getting MS61RB.

    Speedy
     
    Speedy, Jun 20, 2006
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  13. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    AU-58, only because I can't tell if there is some slight wear on the highest points or if it has just toned in those spots
     
    bqcoins, Jun 20, 2006
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  14. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    Im gonna say AU53
     
    Bedford, Jun 20, 2006
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  15. EdsCoin

    EdsCoin Senior Member

    NGC-Probably MS64 RB
    My grade-AU58 RB
    A Very Nice Coin
     
    EdsCoin, Jun 20, 2006
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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I hate grading these things - they're worse than Washington quarters :headbang:

    If I had to guess I'd say this coin was in an album or coin tray for a good long time and that when it was placed there it was pretty much full red. But then the copper started to turn - and right there is where I get shot down every time :hammer:

    I'm gonna say you have to see this one in hand to grade it. The chocolate toning on the high points is too easy to mistake for wear. Example - you can still see the luster under the toning on the headband, hair etc. But on the bow - that's a tough call to make based on a pic.

    But I'm gonna throw caution to the wind and go with my gut - MS64 RB :hatch:
     
    GDJMSP, Jun 20, 2006
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  17. gulfofmex

    gulfofmex Senior Member

    Mike you're killin' us....... LOL
     
    gulfofmex, Jun 20, 2006
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  18. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Either AU-55 or MS-62RB.
     
    09S-V.D.B, Jun 22, 2006
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  19. vincent2920

    vincent2920 Senior Member

    I'd say this looks in the MS60 RB range, but 1/2 cents are very unfamiliar to me.Looks like too many marks to go much higher.
     
    vincent2920, Jun 22, 2006
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  20. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    I think NGC would go at least 63RB.
     
    Doug21, Jun 22, 2006
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  21. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    NGC graded the coin MS 62 RB.

    IMHO, NGC nailed the grade on this one.

    Here are my thought on the coin...The coin has absolutely no wear, and is correctly graded MS rather than a very nice AU as is often seen in low mS grades in TPG slabs. The obverse has a large area of discolored brown caused by being handled -- remnants of a palm/finger print are fairly apparent in the pictures and more apparent on the coin in hand. The cartwheen is impared on the obverse by the discoloration, but remains virtually complete on the reverse. Ther are numerous ticks and taps (perhaps "keg marks" from a hoard) on both sides and they are what limit the grade to 62.

    All in all this is a very attractive coin, but in the end I returned the coin as I was hoping for better cartwheel luster on the obverse.

    Take care and thanks for your comments...Mike

    p.s. Spider, what did I do to make you angry? Believe me it was not on purpose. :hug:
     
    Leadfoot, Jun 23, 2006
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