Holiday Version of GTG Morgan

Easily the Queen or Jack of the entire Morgan series. Either I got the deal of the century or I'll get an eBay refund. Not sure which. Sellers photos. I vowed to never buy a rare ungraded coin there, but here we are. And no, rated seller, and not from overseas, specifically China. ​

 

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Do you have that in hand yet? or are these the sellers photos?

 

Sellers photos. I don't even care if it's cleaned. I took a flyer on it. PM me and I'll give you more details of the auction. eBay is good at protecting the buyer against fraud and fakes. It's likely that I would have never bought this date if not for the price. It's ugly, but the deal was too good to not go through a hassle of returning it if not authentic. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

 

I get you, often some of the earlier chinese fakes and even contemporary fakes had close weights. what most of them lacked was the right weight but the diameter was slightly different, and the thickness was off. There are some real good fakes out there.
I wish I would have bought a 79cc capped die. years ago. And it was in convincing AU/MS condition.

 

If the seller actually ships it, and I actually get it, I'll take it to the coin shop to authenticate it (after I weigh it and that passes the test). Nothing is a sure thing the way the post office operates. They've already lost or stolen 3 coins this year.

 

So far my favorite steal is a raw 1892 P Morgan I got for AU53 money. I sent it off to ANACS (which is a technical bear with grading, no bonus points for eye appeal) and it came back MS62. I was tickled pink.I can't find anything in O or S for anything 1892 like I got that deal for. I just have low grade examples in those. I'm not that concerned with the grade here if this is authentic if the photos or coin are not deep fakes. I'm sure all of this bores non Morgan collectors to tears.

 

I saw a '93-O recently but it was horrible to even look upon, so i passed on that one. Just by a quick glance, I'd guess around XF-40 details for your coin. I'd buy that for the right price though, and it sounds like you got a good deal. Hopefully you just got yourself a really nice Christmas present!

 

Thank you sir. Merry Christmas to you and the rest of CT as well, or Happy Holidays for the rest of our friends. If this turns out legit and XF40, I could be arrested for a felony in most states other than California.

 

I hope the best for you, but the seller has a negative review from a 1894 Morgan Dollar he sold...

 

I saw that too. I also saw the photo that was complained about. Not the same one, not even close. We shall see. Like I said, this was an exercise in how much patience I have for BS, returning a switched coin, etc etc. I researched all of this ahead of time. I won't lose a dime but my patience could be stretched thin.

 

I saw the review, but with the guarantee, I thought it was worth the risk, with a mulligan to send it back for refund made it worth a shot. I figured in the worse case, I'll just be aggravated for wasted time and effort, and a temporary loss of credit line on a card, which is the least of my concerns. It could be my one and only chance to buy a super key date, because I am not inclined to outlay big money for an uncirculated example. As one poster already knows, he did the research, $250 wasn't an unreasonable gamble based on coin guide values.

I'm not counting my chickens yet though, I'd say there is only 20% chance I scored a real deal. If something seems too good to be true, it usually is. I am going to guess ahead of time it is a returned coin from another buyer with graffitti on it.

 

Welp, got back in town yesterday, and took this to our only legit coin dealer. They tested both weight, jewelers loop, and whatever fancy gizmo tester thing that is called. SRF? Edit, Sigma PMV. It's legit. He guessed VF, details, polished for grade. Said he would net grade it down to a VG. He actually made me an offer for $100 more than I paid, but the entire point was to verify it as genuine and send off for slabbing. Needless to say, I'm very happy.

 

Heck yes, very nice to hear that! Personally, I'd be tempted to send it in for certification, and ANACS would serve that purpose at a somewhat affordable price (unless you're already a member elsewhere) but regardless of grading that's an awesome score!

 

Thanks. Yep, I use ANACs because 1) pricing 2) extensive VAM attribution. I was hoping this dealer acted as a middle man for PCGS and would send off for a small fee to get crossovers done, but they stopped doing that a couple of years ago. He did say they were rethinking that and doing it again.

 

We take them as we find them, man. Great it checks out for you!

 

Now that you've got it in hand, have you checked for the typical die markers?

 

I'm just glad it's not a fake. Not yet. It's got wear. And probably spit shined. Not sure that is possible anyhowzzzzzz. It's got an awful tinny look to it, I was pretty skeptical. I guess that's how worn coins look when whizzed.

 

I had to take another look at the coin. In your original photos there looks to be evidence of a O or an S mm. Maybe the reason it was polished. Just take a look.

 

Now that you've pointed that out, it does look like an "O" might have been there at one time.