Holiday Mystery coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ryan McVay, Dec 23, 2023.

  1. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    OK I am the second person to try and ID this mystery coin. I can say that I have looked thru, easily, 10k images on acsearch without a hit. I've used terms like Ares, Mars, Athena, thyrsos, crowning, ae, etc. No matches.
    The closest I can find is KINGS of PERGAMON. Philetairos. But it is still not a match.
    This coin is bronze ae and is 2.59g.

    I've got at least 12 hrs invested in the hunt and my buddy has about 6. We are stumped.
    Any neoplasm is appreciated.
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  3. The Meat man

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  4. Spark1951

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    @Ryan McVay …I think you used the wrong word.

    Neoplasm: the uncontrolled growth of abnormal tissue; a tumor.

    Why would you ask for that?…Spark
     
  5. Curtis

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    As @The Meat man commented, it's a type of Antigonos II Gonatas (277-239 BCE). Athena on the obverse & Pan erecting a trophy on the reverse.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the trophy alludes to his victory over Pyrrhus and his Gallic mercenaries, and other Gauls that Antigonos drove from Macedonia.

    It is small but not too out of the ordinary. (I've had many of these & they vary quite a bit in size, quality & style.) I do wonder, however, if it isn't an imitative type. The reverse is pretty good style (albeit on too small a flan) but the obverse/Athena strikes me as crude. (Wouldn't it be ironic to have a Gallic imitation of Antigonos II?!)

    You can see examples linked here:

    Official examples

    Imitations
     
  6. The Meat man

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    I also thought the portrait style seemed odd but I didn't know there were imitations. I'm sure that's what the OP's coin is.
     
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  7. Bing

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    ANTIGONOS GONATAS.jpg
    ANTIGONOS GONATAS, King of Macedonia
    AE 19
    OBVERSE: Head of Athena right in crested Corinthian helmet
    REVERSE: BA above, ANTI monogram below, Pan advancing right, erecting trophy
    Struck at Macedonia, 277-239 BC
    4.58g, 19mm
    Lindgren III, 105, Sear #6786 (var)
    Countermarked on obverse
     
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  10. Curtis

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    They often come with countermarks -- usually on Athena's helmet. (I collect countermarks.)

    Mine (below) are not the best examples (mostly from group lots and pick bins) but you can see a couple varieties of the control symbols on the reverse, which can vary. (To the left, sometimes a Macedonian helmet; to right, sometimes a wreath. Monograms between Pan's legs.)

    I wouldn't be surprised if one or two were imitative.

    I like the ones on which you can see Pan's goat-like features: horns, tail, and/or hooves:
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    VAuctions 286 195 (296 229) Antigonos II Gonatas Pan Trophy Athena Group Lot.jpg
     
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